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Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: WRTC 18 Qualifying

To: "David Siddall" <hhamwv@gmail.com>, <wrtc2018@lists.wrtc2018.de>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: WRTC 18 Qualifying
From: "Igor Sokolov" <ua9cdc@gmail.com>
Reply-to: Igor Sokolov <ua9cdc@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 10:12:37 +0500
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Dave,
Can you support your statement regarding the number of participants in RDXC, IARU and WPX with solid figures? ARRL, that was part of 2014 WRTYC selection, for me is truly regional contest where unlike RDXC we can only work US and VE and therefore pretty dull from areas where propagation to NA last only few hours. In RDXC you can work any one anywhere wich does not fit the discription of a regional contest but rather WW contest. I have done ARRL couple of times from the very well equipped setup with multiple stacks to only make 500-600 QSOs in 48 hours while 3000 QSO in 24 hours in RDXC is not uncommon from almost anywhere.

73, Igor UA9CDC

Thanks for your thoughts.  As I noted WAE & RDXC were elevated ABOVE CQWPX
and IARU.   RDXC & WAE certainly are enjoyed by many, they are fun
contests, but they do not draw numbers of competitors with worldwide
distribution equivalent to CQWPX & IARU.   Do we really need social
engineering to push competitors into this or that contest and tell us what
we "should" like?  The numbers demonstrate the rankings for what we *do*
like as a group, rather than individual preferences.

73,  Dave K3ZJ


On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Mats Strandberg <sm6lrr@gmail.com> wrote:

Dave,

While I do argue with the 2018 organizers on the Assistsd/Non Assisted
issue, I fully support the decision to elevate WAE and RDXC to the same
level and CQWW and CQ WPX.

Why?

Simply becuase those two contests are globally considered much bigger than they are in some continents..I do consider the CQ contests superb and they
will forever remain as two of my favourite Top Five contests. However,
without question, WAE and RDXC have in late years become even more fun to
participate in - and this not only to Europeans and Russians. They are now
by me and many others considered at same popularity level as the CQ
contests.

RDXC is not a regional contest. It is a Worldwide contest where Russians
compete separately and the rest in a worldwide group. Working DX stations
is heavily stimulated by different points compared to working stations from
the same continent. The log checking and penalties system requires better
operator skills compared to some other contests where the contest echange
is more or less given. In RDXC, you nned to make sure you receive both the
other stations's callsign and exchange correctly. Moreover, you must
moderate your speed in a way that ensures that the other station also gets your call and exchange correctly. If not, penalties for both of you. I know this has caused some US frustration, but in my honest opinion, this develop
and stimulate true operator skills rather than skills of relying on the
database of the log program.

WAE used to be a contest I did not pay attention to because of QTCs. They
bothered me because I did not feel I was control of them. It was a new way of contesting and I was against and did not work WAE for many years. Then I
gradualy started working it with pleasure but always avoiding exhange of
the "troublesome" QTCs. One day I decided to open my eyes and challenge
myself to try echanging QTCs. From that day I got stuck!  The skill-set
needed to work WAE in full extent by exchanging QTCs is different from
normal contesting and the operator that masters that additional complexity of WAE should definitely receive the same credits as the one that runs 300+
rates exchanging predictable zones in a CQWW.

It is time for Americans to finally explore RDXC and WAE in a serious way
and with 1000 points value, be sure the bands will be boiling also in North
America those weekends. Run rates in RDXC are excellent for any station
participating - for sure not only for Russians.  Particpate and enjoy
instead of maintaining a prejudiced opinion about these two great events!

73 de Mats RM2D (SM6LRR)







2014-12-02 23:15 GMT+03:00 David Siddall <hhamwv@gmail.com>:

The difference in rules between WRTC2014 and WRTC2018 that struck me was
that the prior emphasis on worldwide contests while accommodating the
major
regionals was abandoned.

For WRTC2014, only CQWW received full 1000 value, with CQWPX at 950 and
IARU at 900. Major regional contests such as ARRL, Russian, WAE, AA were
900 or less.  But for WRTC2018, instead of elevating the truly worldwide
contests -- CQWPX & IARU -- the organizers instead emphasize European
regional contests -- WAE and Russian -- both of which now get the top 1000
value.

This is a step backward from promoting worldwide competition. It elevates
two Euro-centric competitions with less participation above the more
popular worldwide contests as well as above the other major regionals such
as ARRL and AA.  Having lived in areas of the world where propagation
doesn't support full time efforts in the regionals (whether or not one can
"work anyone" but for fewer points/mults), I appreciate the truly
worldwide
competitions that we have.  It says something that these rose to the top
in
popularity in the free marketplace of contests.

Just my observation.

73,  Dave K3ZJ
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