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Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP Power Level

To: xdavid@cis-broadband.com, cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP Power Level
From: KB8N via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: PaulKB8N@aol.com
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 17:21:23 -0500
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What started this whole discussion was that Pat apparently wanted  to test 
out some kind of new setup.  Why would he want to use high  power when he 
had the opportunity to test his setup against a level playing  field running 
low power?
 
There is an aspect to this that I feel needs to be more fully  addressed.  
When a high power station plays in this contest, that  station has a greater 
opportunity to hold a run frequency and maintain a  pileup.  To me, 
operating high power in NAQP for whatever reason hurts  the competition among 
the 
contestants whose scores count. In effect, the high  power station deprives 
legitimate competitors a slice of the  spectrum.
 
You can read the rules two different ways.  One interpretation is that  it 
is OK to run high power and submit a check log, the other interpretation is  
if you run high power you will be penalized by not being able to submit a 
log  for scoring purposes.
 
If I owned an amplifier, I wouldn't want to make a lot of noise at the  
expense of others slugging it out using low power.
 
Paul K5AF
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/11/2016 2:09:37 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
xdavid@cis-broadband.com writes:


Personally, I don't have a problem with non-entrants using high  power in 
the NAQP.  I do, however, have a problem with the boorish  use of 
"entitlement" to belittle those who do.  It's a simple minded  
generalization almost every time people use it.

As an aside, how  exactly does running high power help anyone with their 
power line  noise?

Dave   AB7E


On 1/11/2016 8:45 AM, W0MU  wrote:
> Seems like the entitlement age has now reached  contesting.  You can't 
> work someone because you think he is  running HP and that is his 
> problem and not yours?  Maybe he has  S9 powerline noise or was not 
> listening in your  direction.
>
> Nobody forced you to "waste" a lot of time trying  to work this guy. 
> How many mults and contacts did you miss by not  turning the dial. 
> Isn't one of the skills of contesting know when you  can and can't get 
> through and when to move on?
>
> Me me  me me me me ...I need the mult, I was calling, I wasted.
>
> This  is contesting.  A Significant portion of the contestants really 
>  aren't.  They are passerby's simply operating by the terms of their  
> licenses.  The airwaves belong to the public not the  contest.
>
> I thought I had heard it all.
>
>  W0MU
>
>> Here's a simple example of why we care from last  night on 80M. In S&P
>> mode, I was calling a station who had a  considerably better signal than
>> many from the east coast I had  worked, but I wasted a lot of time trying
>> to get his  multiplier.
>>
>> Another example -- I'm running S&P and  calling another station I need as
>> a mult and a high power station  wins the jump ball. He's 12 dB louder by
>> virtue of his power amp,  not his antennas or distance.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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