Gotta remember, that depending on the contest, the decision to "move"
can be a challenging issue. In contests like CQWW, you are basically
free to move stations provided the station is going to provide you a new
mult on the new band. By contrast in ARRL, you are limited to six band
changes per clock hour in a 60 minute period. So unless you have band
changes to "burn", a multi single is going to burn up two of its six
band changes by moving to work you on a second band (provided the
station doesn't decide to start working QSOs on that changed band).
73 Rich NN3W
On 2/29/2016 1:37 PM, Kelly Taylor wrote:
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On Feb 29, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Jukka Klemola <jpklemola@gmail.com> wrote:
There are multiops who are QRV on other bands.
Singleops usually say no to a QSY request.
Successful multiops typically welcome QSY requests.
The most successful say right away where they can QSY right or they propose a
sked.
The most successful also SHOW UP on the proposed frequency.
It is good manners to try and give more QSOs in a contest.
But it is not bad manners to have a legitimate reason to say no, either.
73,
Jukka OH6LI
2016-02-27 15:40 GMT+02:00 ve4xt@mymts.net <ve4xt@mymts.net>:
Wow. I'd never ask a station running to QSY, and certainly wouldn't be such a knob
as to berate someone for not. I don't mind getting the question when I'm s&p,
but I don't feel beholden to agree, even though I normally do.
I was asked once while I was running, and while I wasn't doing SO2R, I did have another
radio ready to go. So I told the guy to call me there. Kept an ear on his target
frequency and kept running. Heard nothing on the target frequency. He came back to my run
frequency and asked "Aren't you going to move?" I told him again, call me
there, I'm listening. Nothing.
Maybe it was just propagation, but I did hear others from his area on that
second band. I suspect it was just a scam to usurp my run frequency.
Steve, you weren't asking folks on their run frequency to chase you, were you?
If so, I don't blame them for not.
73, kelly, ve4xt
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On Feb 26, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net> wrote:
Steve,
I can't speak for any other little pistol or squirt gun out there, but over the
years I've learned a bit of a distaste when someone asks me to QSY to another
band.
I've had the request made on one of those rare times I have a run frequency going. If
I've got people calling me, I'm not leaving. Worse, I've had people ask this, I would go
and work the other band (and I don't always have propagation at the time), and on my
return find that the station that asked me "as a courtesy" was now working my
run frequency as his.
When I'm doing S&P, again, I may not have propagation to that part of the world
on the other band at that time. And I may have other reasons for not wanting to
QSY at that time.
But the biggest reason I've come to dislike the requests... when (and this
happens primarily on voice modes) I'm asked and I decline, the other guy starts
giving me an argument. I'm in the middle of a run, I have a half-dozen people
calling, and someone wants me to stop cold and discuss why I want to stay put,
or don't want to go to another band right then and there?
Now, I don't mind if, while doing S&P, the op of a M/2 or M/M tells me that their other
station is on, well, whatever frequency. Especially during the Sunday "doldrums".
As long as they simply mention it. Again, though, when the other op demands to know why
not... I mean, really. It's not like a W3 from PA is exactly rare, and I get that they'd
like to maximize the number of Q's on each band.
So please don't take it personally if I don't QSY to another band.
73, ron w3wn
On 02/26/16, sbloom@acsalaska.net wrote:
I'm not sure changing the exchange is realistic (though man that *IS* a
great idea) ...but I will comment that I find it increasingly difficult
to communicate *anything* other than the contest exchange with most
folks. I always try to get guys late in the contest ..if/when things
are slow ..to QSY to other bands ..and I'm probably down to 1 or 2 in
10 ...giving me any answer at all ..yes or no ...no matter how much I
QRS. Probably not much that can be done ..as code readers become more
popular ..but it does suck.
73
Steve KL7SB
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 16:09:21 -0500, Jeff Clarke wrote:
A simple solution. Make the callsign part of the exchange like
SS. For example if I work P40W he would send KU8E P40W 5NN 5.
There were several stations this past weekend in ARRL DX that wouldn't
even send their call until they weren't being called by anyone anymore.
Some others would work between 5-10 stations before they sent their
call.
I blame alot of this problem on the dumbing down of DX contesting (and
DXing in general) caused by packet spotting. Most casual DX contesters
like SOA and just click on packet spots and work people. No skill
needed anymore to copy a call or have any knowledge about propagation
to know which band to be on to maximize your score. To me it's similar
to catching fish in a barrel. Those on the other end of the pileup know
this and this is why they don't ID frequently. It's very frustrating
for those who still like to be unassisted.
It's obvious to me that many of these people also can't copy CW other
then their own call. I had a situation on 15 CW Sunday morning in ARRL
CW that I had a bunch of dupes that started calling me. Someone had
probably spotted my call wrong. It was amazing to me that many of those
that called were well known contest calls. They still called even
though I was sending my call every QSO. I checked the spots of my
callsign after the contest and that's exactly what happened. It wasn't
until someone spotted me with the comment "call correction" that the
dupes stopped.
BTW, I'm not against SOA. I guess I'm just old fashioned because it's
just not challenging to me. I like to find stations and band openings
on my own. That's more thrilling to me. To each his own. If you get a
thrill from clicking on spots all weekend long, more power to you.
Kudos to guys like K3WW and AA3B who have good stations, are great run
operators and they know how to interleave spots between their runs to
maximize their score.
Jeff KU8E
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