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Re: [CQ-Contest] RM11708 and the Future

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RM11708 and the Future
From: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:48:00 -0500 (CDT)
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 And therein lies the problem.


Adding regulations does not good if they are not being enforced.  All it will 
do is prevent the honest Amateur operators from using or experimenting with 
potential new modes, out of respect for the regs.  Those Amateurs who continue 
to ignore or flout the rules, or misquote them, or look for technical 
loopholes, all to justify poor or selfish behavior will (sad to say) continue 
to do so.
 
I do not in any way condone the selfish, reckless, and otherwise poor operating 
being shown by the handful of digital operators who (by their own usage, and 
that of the mailboxes that they run, set up, or otherwise use) are causing 
grief to so many.  But adding, or supporting the addition of burdensome 
regulations that will NOT be enforced and that will only be a hindrance to the 
honest ops, not these turkeys, does not strike me as a wise decision in both 
the short and the long run.


73, ron w3wn

On 08/25/16, Ron Kolarik wrote:

Hi Michael,

On 8/24/2016 5:53 PM, Michael Adams wrote:
> While I hate to say it, the regulators' response to the "keeps banging away" 
> question would be to point out Part 97 already prohibits willfully or 
> maliciously causing harmful interference, and requires adherence to the 
> standards of good amateur practice, a matter that is independent of RM-11708.
>
> If there is something about a particular mode or automated system that 
> invites noncompliance, or complicates enforcement, it would be appropriate 
> for concerned amateurs to prepare a suitable petition for rulemaking, or to 
> lobby Congress for increased resources for FCC enforcement efforts.

Ahh, yes it's prohibited but it's not being enforced or even monitored 
as far as I can tell by either the FCC or OO's. I do understand FCC
budget constraints but even when presented with documentation nothing 
ever seems to get done. It does have a lot to do
with the NPRM, inviting more of the same on to the bands is not a good 
idea.

> Barring that, the answer is to spin the big dial, or work on making your 
> signal louder (but clean and within power limits) since clearly someone is 
> having a hard time hearing that the frequency is occupied.

I can't spin the big knob, I run a Flex:-) Increasing power is not going 
to help them hear me, one classic response I got was " I have the sound 
turned
down so I don't have to listen to that horrible noise and the frequency 
is published so it's for mailbox use".......yeah, I was beat at that 
point can't argue with
genius of that level. Instead of me turning the big knob maybe the 
digital messaging crowd needs to turn the little knob up.

> --
> Michael Adams | mda@n1en.org
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ron Kolarik <rkolarik@neb.rr.com>
> Sent: Aug 24, 2016 1:26 PM
> To: Reflector
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RM11708 and the Future
>
>
> Finally, "I am fully willing to mix it up and compete", how do you
> compete with a mode that keeps banging away
> on an already occupied frequency until it makes a connection?
>
> Ron K0IDT
>
>

Ron K0IDT

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