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Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recording

To: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recording
From: Tom Haavisto <kamham69@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 19:15:27 -0500
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Based on my observations, I suspect there was some one-way propagation
going on.  The first time it happened, it was WTF!?!  It happened maybe
half a dozen times over the weekend from ops who I consider to be very good
ops.  I know some of them personally, and that is NOT how they roll.  One
way propagation would explain what I heard.  Seems I am not the only one to
observe this over the last weekend.

The whole point was - an SDR recording would not have captured this the
same way I heard it.

Yes - loosing your run frequency is part of the game.  It happens.  You can
either stick it out and not make any Q's, or try and find a new run
frequency and start over...  Sometimes, its just easier to move...

Tom - VE3CX




On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 2:22 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:

> What exactly would a recording of what you received proved?  That they
> moved into your spot?  It does not prove anything else.  I suspect you are
> trying to say they were listening on an SDR which may or may not be true.
> How could you prove it.    Later it turns out that maybe it was
> conditions?  This is where things get really dicey.
>
> Taking over someones spot is part of the game like it or not.  I watched
> numerous time where East coast stations continued to creep in on me from
> both sides.  Not much I can do.
>
> W0MU
>
>
>
> On 1/28/2018 9:27 AM, Tom Haavisto wrote:
>
>> I see there is a (continuing) controversy about contest recording. My
>> understanding is the for the CQWW at least, the contest is recorded from
>> several locations around the world by SDR receivers and then shipped to
>> the
>> contest committee.
>>
>> I was very much in the camp of “Well – if the contest committee wants to
>> hear what happened on the air, they have the time, date and frequency, as
>> well as a recording if they want to hear what happened."  Until last night
>> in the CQ 160 contest, and no, I did not record it.
>>
>> A few times, someone got pretty close to me, and in one case, started
>> CQing
>> right on top of me. Fair disclosure – I run a KW into a full size
>> vertical,
>> and these guys were LOUD.  A few times, I even checked the amp and the
>> wattmeter to make sure things were working, and I was starting to
>> seriously
>> wonder about a few folks...  Once, twice... OK, something odd is going
>> on...   A few times when I reverted to S&P, I called a few loud guys, and
>> it took them several tries for them to pull out my call.  This was not
>> normal.
>>
>>
>> As we all know, 160 is an interesting band and still pulls up a few
>> surprises now and then.  This being the latest example.  An SDR would not
>> have captured what I experienced - the only way to capture this would be a
>> personal recording.
>>
>> Just food for thought.
>>
>>
>> Tom - VE3CX
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