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Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recording

To: Ria Jairam <rjairam@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Contest Recording
From: Maarten van R <pd2r.maarten@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 05:50:29 +0000
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With the current SDR’s like the Flex radio’s, the “point & click” tuning
probably doesn’t sound any different then clicking spots on the cluster.

73, Maarten PD2R


Op ma 29 jan. 2018 om 04:21 schreef Ria Jairam <rjairam@gmail.com>

> I think the value of recordings is more to determine whether
> unassisted ops are using unclaimed assistance. If someone is tuning
> they would sound differently than if they were using spots and jumping
> around. It's hard to detect this with an SDR recording.
>
> Ria
> N2RJ
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 2:22 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:
> > What exactly would a recording of what you received proved?  That they
> moved
> > into your spot?  It does not prove anything else.  I suspect you are
> trying
> > to say they were listening on an SDR which may or may not be true.  How
> > could you prove it.    Later it turns out that maybe it was conditions?
> > This is where things get really dicey.
> >
> > Taking over someones spot is part of the game like it or not.  I watched
> > numerous time where East coast stations continued to creep in on me from
> > both sides.  Not much I can do.
> >
> > W0MU
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/28/2018 9:27 AM, Tom Haavisto wrote:
> >>
> >> I see there is a (continuing) controversy about contest recording. My
> >> understanding is the for the CQWW at least, the contest is recorded from
> >> several locations around the world by SDR receivers and then shipped to
> >> the
> >> contest committee.
> >>
> >> I was very much in the camp of “Well – if the contest committee wants to
> >> hear what happened on the air, they have the time, date and frequency,
> as
> >> well as a recording if they want to hear what happened."  Until last
> night
> >> in the CQ 160 contest, and no, I did not record it.
> >>
> >> A few times, someone got pretty close to me, and in one case, started
> >> CQing
> >> right on top of me. Fair disclosure – I run a KW into a full size
> >> vertical,
> >> and these guys were LOUD.  A few times, I even checked the amp and the
> >> wattmeter to make sure things were working, and I was starting to
> >> seriously
> >> wonder about a few folks...  Once, twice... OK, something odd is going
> >> on...   A few times when I reverted to S&P, I called a few loud guys,
> and
> >> it took them several tries for them to pull out my call.  This was not
> >> normal.
> >>
> >>
> >> As we all know, 160 is an interesting band and still pulls up a few
> >> surprises now and then.  This being the latest example.  An SDR would
> not
> >> have captured what I experienced - the only way to capture this would
> be a
> >> personal recording.
> >>
> >> Just food for thought.
> >>
> >>
> >> Tom - VE3CX
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