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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW SSB 2017 Effective DQ

To: Richard Ferch <ve3iay@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW SSB 2017 Effective DQ
From: Ria Jairam <rjairam@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2018 22:44:38 -0500
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I have been using the spectrum display. It works but a lot of the time
you still need to fine tune, especially if you're tuning to someone
who is splattering a lot. It's very good but not perfect.

More importantly you can't see WHO you're tuning to. Unlike operating
assisted where you can pick off mults easily and strategically and
almost automatically, this one you're just looking for unidentified
signals. It's a tuning guide at be It's still very much S&P like using
the VFO knob. CC will never tell us how they detect cheating but you
can have a fairly good idea. And yes, someone can game the system by
tuning manually and working non-mults then getting to a mult gradually
so as not to set off any red flags. I think a lot who have been caught
were really brazen because there was basically zero enforcement.

Ria
N2RJ


On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 5:08 PM, Richard Ferch <ve3iay@gmail.com> wrote:
> N1UR wrote:
>
>> Sure they don't ask everyone in the top 5 for a recording, but I assume if
>> Scott had one, it would have clarified whatever the concern was.
>
> Not necessarily.
>
> Presumably they are checking for assisted vs. non-assisted, since audio
> recordings are only required in non-assisted entry classes.
>
> But just how would a recording tell them whether you were assisted? Because
> you jumped directly from one S&P QSO to the next without tuning through
> intervening frequencies? At one time, maybe that would have been an
> indication, but not with current technology. With a current Icom or Flex
> radio, or with any other radio plus a cheap SDR and some free or
> inexpensive software, you can now configure N1MM Logger+ to display a
> spectrum/waterfall window that is integrated with the logger, so you can
> click on traces in the waterfall and jump directly from one signal to the
> next. You can do an entire contest S&P without ever turning the tuning
> knob, and without using any assistance as defined in CQ WW rule VIII.2 (the
> spectrum display software does not decode CW, it just displays signal
> traces, the same as the display on the front panel of many current radios,
> or on an external panadapter like a P3).
>
> As far as an audio recording is concerned, someone clicking on spectrum or
> waterfall traces to jump between signals would sound exactly the same as
> someone clicking on cluster spots. An audio recording would not be able to
> discriminate between the two.
>
> 73,
> Rich VE3KI
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