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Re: [CQ-Contest] 4U1WB: ARRL DX Contest: Rule 6.1

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 4U1WB: ARRL DX Contest: Rule 6.1
From: David Siddall <hhamwv@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 11:45:13 -0500
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What's the problem?  The more distinctive the station or location, the
better!  It all adds to the fun and can draw casual operators into the
contest.  Masa doesn't seem to have a problem with callers unsure of his
QTH, why should you?

We all don't have to have multiple monobanders wavelengths high on top of
hills in quiet rural locations with multiple element phased arrays on the
low bands to have fun.  And a serious competitor shouldn't feel threatened
by a tribander low on the roof of an office building in downtown DC with
just a wire for 40M and below, a constant noise floor at least 25 dB above
that at most stations, and a transmit signal many dBs weaker in all
directions.

Yes, Masa is an excellent operator.   When operating competitively, he is
found at superstation N3HBX, including during some WPX contests.  He also
has operated at B1Z, K4JA, and some others as well.

And I hope that he will activate 4U1WB for some fun again this year, even
though almost everyone has a much better chance to work him than I do
because of skip zones from 100 miles away.


73, Dave K3ZJ



On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Actually, if you look at spots for 4U1WB when Masa operates outside of
> contests – he generates A LOT of interest because of the unusual situation
> and uniqueness of 4U1WB.  When I operate as AC1U, I generate no such
> special interest.
>
>
>
> Nothing prevents Masa from legally using AJ3M at the WB station.  It’s a
> duly licensed FCC radio operator operating a station in the US.  There are
> no “station licenses” in the US.  Only operators in locations.
>
>
>
> If the point of being on this weekend is to hand out DC, he would be way
> better off being AJ3M than 4U1WB.  The opposite is the case in WPX.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Ed  N1UR
>
>
>
> *From:* David Siddall [mailto:hhamwv@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:49 AM
> *To:* cq-contest
> *Cc:* Ria Jairam; sawyered@earthlink.net
> *Subject:* Re: [CQ-Contest] 4U1WB: ARRL DX Contest: Rule 6.1
>
>
>
> Come on, Ed, you know better.  In WPX, there is no advantage of using 4U1
> over, say, AC1.
>
>
>
> Masa's main station is 4U1WB, whether its WPX or any other contest.  N1UR,
> on the other hand, became AC1U for the two weekends and was the only AC1 in
> the same contests.  K3ZJ became WR8AA in a part-time effort on one of the
> weekends too.  All three of us were on equal ground callsign-wise.  We each
> used a callsign that, at least for entries, had a unique prefix.
>
>
>
> But among us, only Masa used the everyday normal callsign for the station
> he operates from.  And you were the only one to make a serious competitive
> effort.
>
>
>
> BTW, had Masa operated elsewhere and used his personal callsign (AJ3M), it
> also would have been a unique callsign in both modes.
>
>
>
> There is nothing wrong with any of this, but I would conclude that you
> used a rare callsign to gain a competitive advantage; I used one to give
> out a mult during my limited time on the air;  and Masa just used the
> callsign of the station he operated, as he usually does.
>
>
>
> So to say that "it does not seem fair"  is, to me, twisted.  Masa just did
> his normal thing at his normal station.  You did not.
>
>
>
> 73, Dave
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:43 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> You can put in the effort to improve antennas and location.  But no matter
> how much effort you put in, you can’t make up a call sign like 4U1WB.  It
> has to be bestowed on you.
>
>
>
> In the ARRL DX contest – its of no value – in fact its clearly a
> hinderence.  Being right, but having to repeat and explain is a contest
> killer.  But in WPX, no one cares where you are (other than wondering why
> the points for the Q don’t look right), they just know they need a new
> prefix.  Add that to the fact that some percentage of callers probably
> think they just worked a new one (4U1 must be UN HQ no?) and its just not
> good sportsmanship in my opinion.
>
>
>
> 4U1WB and any other 4U1 should compete for NA not for W.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Ed  N1UR
>
>
>
> From: rjairam@gmail.com [mailto:rjairam@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:26 AM
> To: sawyered@earthlink.net
> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 4U1WB: ARRL DX Contest: Rule 6.1
>
>
>
> Fair? Nothing is fair... might as well require everyone to operate with
> the same antennas and location while you’re at it.
>
> Ria
> N2RJ
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:23 AM Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Masa, Why don't you just get a W3 call sign and avoid this mess?  You will
> never be competitive in ARRL DX having to explain who you are.  I am sure
> that many DX stations would be very happy to work a W3 from DC.
>
>
>
> As to WPX, a 4U1 callsign is clearly an advantage in a Prefix contest.  It
> does  not seem fair to me that a 4U1 can compete equally with a W1 in the
> WPX contest.
>
>
>
> Ed  N1UR
>
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