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Re: [CQ-Contest] possible changes for CQ VHF Contest

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] possible changes for CQ VHF Contest
From: Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 15:44:15 -0400
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Hi Dennis,

I can't say that I really like FT8 that much. I just do it to increase my score and only went to that mode when I heard no other signals on either CW or SSB. I ended up with 101 CW QSO's, which I think is more than anyone else who posted their breakdown by mode. The one advantage I see with FT8/FT4 that it's possible to work closer in grids that you might not even hear on SSB or CW.  Plus it's a good propagation indicator. When signals were above 0 dB on FT8 I knew it was time to try CW or SSB again. I quit around midnight on Saturday night to sleep even though I was still coping FT8 signals.

My strategy was to be on SSB when signals were really loud, CW when they got weaker and FT8 when they were gone. I'm afraid the FT4/FT8 mode isn't going to go away in VHF contests so if you want to have a good score you have to bite the bullet and as my good friend and mentor K8MR said "go over to the dark side". I think the next thing the serious SO2R guys will do is to have one station on the traditional SSB/CW modes and another totally dedicated to FT8/FT4. They might be doing this already? A narrow band pass filter would be needed so you don't blow out the front end of your receivers.

73, Jeff

On 7/23/2019 12:24 PM, Dennis McAlpine wrote:
GM John,

I enjoyed the past weekend and the CQ VHF Contest quite a lot.  For once,
there was propagation from SC to most areas East of the Mississippi both
afternoons.  I, for once, actually thought I had done pretty well
considering that I only run about 400 watts into an H-Doublebay antenna with
the top at about 35' above ground.  I ended up `with 326 QSOs and 120 grid
squares for a score of 39,120, all on 6M.  I have not used FT8/FT4 in
contests since I think it is against the principle that these contests are a
test of operator skill as much as equipment savy.  I was a bit surprised
when I filled in the 3830 score submittal that it did not request a
breakdown by mode into CW, SSB, digital but then there was no separate
category within the contest either.  All was fine until I started seeing
other scores coming in.

It fast became obvious that unless one used the digital modes, they would be
banished to the lower echelons of the standings and my score quickly slid
down the rankings.    So, I started looking at the top scores for 6M.  I was
amazed at how many digital QSOs these scores contained.  For example, K1TO
had 150 FT8 QSOs out of 715 in total, which was 21%.  Similarly, N4BP had
194 digital out of 673 total (29%); W5PR had 157 out of 564 (28%); KU8E had
88/508 (17%); N4PN 212/312 for 68%; WQ5L 103/445 (23%); and W4PV 124/193
(64%).

Even more important was the much higher number of grid squares worked.  It
would appear that digital added 20-80 grid squares to the total mult.  I
can't break it sown further because the summaries do not ask for such a
breakdown in the submittal.  Again, there are no numbers to back this up,
but how many EU stations did you work on CW or SSB?  Probably not many (I
had none and heard none) .  But, I bet the top digital scores were loaded
with DX QSOs that other modes never heard or had a chance of hearing.  No
wonder the mult totals were so high.  I never worked anyone west of the
Mississippi so I was really sucking wind.

In looking at the total scores, I saw one very startling fact.  Of the top
three scorers, K1TO had 6 CW QSOs, N4BP had 1 and W5PR had 1.  To say they
ignored the CW mode is an understatement.  It is evident from these numbers
that CW is an endangered species when it comes to the CQ VHF Contest.  If I
wanted to use digital modes, I would certainly ignore CW in the future if I
wanted a higher score.

I respectively request that you consider the following proposals.  First,
require submittal forms to include a breakdown of CW, SSB, Digital (maybe
broken down into FT-4 and FT-8) QSOs and mults.  I think these are easily
found on logging programs like n1mm+.  This would probably require that
mults be counted per mode and that QSOs could be made with the same person
on different modes.  Then, valid comparisons could be made.  Second, allow
mode entries.  A competitor could submit multiple logs, i.e. one for CW, one
for SSB, one for digital and one for combined.  It would make the log
checkers job easier.  Think of how tough it was to make QSOs when conditions
were not as good as they were last weekend.  Allowing QSOs per mode would
triple the number of possible QSOs and keep the contest from being a real
drag.

Let's adapt the rules to the situation before it becomes too late and CW
sinks down into the mud, never to raise its head again.

73,

Dennis, K2SX

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