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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ-Contest Digest, Vol 277, Issue 7

To: Ron Koenig <k4akkron@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ-Contest Digest, Vol 277, Issue 7
From: Michael Walker <va3mw@portcredit.net>
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 13:19:48 -0500
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Like Ron said

It is just a long MIC cord. 

Mike va3mw

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 7, 2026, at 12:56 PM, Ron Koenig <k4akkron@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> " semi-professional hybrid-communications"
> Really ? Starlink is just a wireless mic / keyer, ALL RF is on the Island.
> It's no different than if the operators were on the island and used
> Bluetooth mics.
> RF to RF.. NO Contacts over Internet, only control. The same as every
> remote station, of which there are hundreds.
> This is not new, many dxpeditions have been down with this tech, it has
> opened doors to activate places that otherwise never would be again.
> 
> Ron, WV4P
> 
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>>   1. Fwd: Expeditions remote (Martin Sellschopp)
>>   2. Odp:  Fwd: Expeditions remote (SQ6MS Maciek)
>>   3. Re: Fwd: Expeditions remote (Ria Jairam)
>>   4. Re: Fwd: Expeditions remote (Paul O'Kane)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 14:29:38 +0100
>> From: Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp@gmail.com>
>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: Expeditions remote
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>> Von: Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp@gmail.com>
>> Date: Mi., 31. Dez. 2025 um 18:23 Uhr
>> Subject: Expeditions remote
>> To: <cq-contest-request@contesting.com>
>> 
>> 
>> I just read  a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
>> that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates it
>> remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
>> still in the spirit of a DXCC ?
>> 
>> The same for Contest activities. Will we have remote stations set up at
>> favorable locations and a team of operators spread out worldwide operating
>> it ?
>> 
>> Best 73's and good dx in 2026
>> Martin
>> DK3UW
>> 
>> 
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2026 15:00:00 +0100
>> From: SQ6MS Maciek <sq6ms@o2.pl>
>> To: cq contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Odp:  Fwd: Expeditions remote
>> Message-ID: <23e2d0f5b8484bb39e14e86174ac1db4@grupawp.pl>
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>> It is not the future. It is reality.?  Vy73`s de Maciek F4VSQ/SQ6MS   Dnia
>> 07 stycznia 2026 14:39 Martin Sellschopp &lt;m.sellschopp@gmail.com&gt;
>> napisa?(a):  ---------- Forwarded message ---------  Von: Martin Sellschopp
>> &lt;m.sellschopp@gmail.com&gt;  Date: Mi., 31. Dez. 2025 um 18:23 Uhr
>> Subject: Expeditions remote  To: &lt;cq-contest-request@contesting.com&gt;
>>  I just read ?a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
>> that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates it
>> remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
>> still in the spirit of a DXCC ?   The same for Contest activities. Will we
>> have remote stations set up at  favorable locations and a team of operators
>> spread out worldwide operating  it ?   Best 73&#39;s and good dx in 2026
>> Martin  DK3UW  _______________________________________________  CQ-Contest
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 09:13:38 -0500
>> From: Ria Jairam <rjairam@gmail.com>
>> To: Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp@gmail.com>
>> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: Expeditions remote
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>> RIBs are the future. This isn?t the era of Don Miller or Romeo where they
>> didn?t have radios on the entity. This has been done a few times and now we
>> have the tech to do so including remote, starlink and solid state amps.
>> 
>> This doesn?t mean traditional tent and generator expeditions aren?t going
>> to happen anymore. But a RIB can mean the difference between an activation
>> and no activation.
>> 
>> This activation is within the rules - 500 meter circle, all on the same
>> entity and land based. As a bonus it minimizes human contact for sensitive
>> ecological areas.
>> 
>> Ria
>> N2RJ
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 8:59?AM Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> Von: Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Mi., 31. Dez. 2025 um 18:23 Uhr
>>> Subject: Expeditions remote
>>> To: <cq-contest-request@contesting.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just read  a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
>>> that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates
>> it
>>> remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
>>> still in the spirit of a DXCC ?
>>> 
>>> The same for Contest activities. Will we have remote stations set up at
>>> favorable locations and a team of operators spread out worldwide
>> operating
>>> it ?
>>> 
>>> Best 73's and good dx in 2026
>>> Martin
>>> DK3UW
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 14:29:20 +0000
>> From: Paul O'Kane <pokane@ei5di.com>
>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: Expeditions remote
>> Message-ID: <d2fd6e12-2a3c-465b-a336-507efa455cff@ei5di.com>
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>>> On 07/01/2026 13:29, Martin Sellschopp wrote:
>>> I just read  a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
>>> that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates
>> it
>>> remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
>>> still in the spirit of a DXCC ?
>> 
>> Of course it's in the spirit of DXCC, isn't it simply
>> station-to-station?communications over RF?
>> 
>> After all, we all know and accept that telephone contacts take place
>> between telephone instruments.? Who needs people?
>> 
>> On the other hand, not a single QSO with KP5 will be possible without
>> 100% dependence on Starlink for each and every contact. Since amateur
>> radio QSOs, by definition (my definition), are person-to-person,
>> ham-band-RF-all-the-way contacts with no dependence on commercial
>> communications utilities, it follows that all contacts with KP5 will be
>> something other than ham radio? - I'd suggest "semi-professional
>> hybrid-communications" contacts.
>> 
>> Apparently, DXCC and contest sponsors are happy to
>> accept?semi-professional hybrid-communications contacts as being
>> equivalent, in all respects, to amateur radio QSOs.? They should think
>> again.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Paul EI5DI
>> 
>> ps - The race is on!? Who will be the first to qualify for the DXCC 10k
>> Challenge?
>> http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-06/msg00261.html
>> 
>> 
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