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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ-Contest Digest, Vol 277, Issue 7
From: David Gilbert <ab7echo@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 12:33:33 -0700
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Nobody will ever change Paul's stance on this subject that he expresses at every possible opportunity.  Lots of folks have tried for years to do so.

Dave   AB7E



On 1/7/2026 10:30 AM, Ron Koenig wrote:
" semi-professional hybrid-communications"
Really ? Starlink is just a wireless mic / keyer, ALL RF is on the Island.
It's no different than if the operators were on the island and used
Bluetooth mics.
RF to RF.. NO Contacts over Internet, only control. The same as every
remote station, of which there are hundreds.
This is not new, many dxpeditions have been down with this tech, it has
opened doors to activate places that otherwise never would be again.

Ron, WV4P

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Today's Topics:

    1. Fwd: Expeditions remote (Martin Sellschopp)
    2. Odp:  Fwd: Expeditions remote (SQ6MS Maciek)
    3. Re: Fwd: Expeditions remote (Ria Jairam)
    4. Re: Fwd: Expeditions remote (Paul O'Kane)


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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 14:29:38 +0100
From: Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp@gmail.com>
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Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: Expeditions remote
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Von: Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp@gmail.com>
Date: Mi., 31. Dez. 2025 um 18:23 Uhr
Subject: Expeditions remote
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I just read  a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates it
remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
still in the spirit of a DXCC ?

The same for Contest activities. Will we have remote stations set up at
favorable locations and a team of operators spread out worldwide operating
it ?

Best 73's and good dx in 2026
Martin
DK3UW


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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2026 15:00:00 +0100
From: SQ6MS Maciek <sq6ms@o2.pl>
To: cq contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Odp:  Fwd: Expeditions remote
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It is not the future. It is reality.?  Vy73`s de Maciek F4VSQ/SQ6MS   Dnia
07 stycznia 2026 14:39 Martin Sellschopp &lt;m.sellschopp@gmail.com&gt;
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   I just read ?a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates it
remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
still in the spirit of a DXCC ?   The same for Contest activities. Will we
have remote stations set up at  favorable locations and a team of operators
spread out worldwide operating  it ?   Best 73&#39;s and good dx in 2026
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 09:13:38 -0500
From: Ria Jairam <rjairam@gmail.com>
To: Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: Expeditions remote
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RIBs are the future. This isn?t the era of Don Miller or Romeo where they
didn?t have radios on the entity. This has been done a few times and now we
have the tech to do so including remote, starlink and solid state amps.

This doesn?t mean traditional tent and generator expeditions aren?t going
to happen anymore. But a RIB can mean the difference between an activation
and no activation.

This activation is within the rules - 500 meter circle, all on the same
entity and land based. As a bonus it minimizes human contact for sensitive
ecological areas.

Ria
N2RJ

On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 8:59?AM Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp@gmail.com>
wrote:

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Von: Martin Sellschopp <m.sellschopp@gmail.com>
Date: Mi., 31. Dez. 2025 um 18:23 Uhr
Subject: Expeditions remote
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I just read  a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates
it
remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
still in the spirit of a DXCC ?

The same for Contest activities. Will we have remote stations set up at
favorable locations and a team of operators spread out worldwide
operating
it ?

Best 73's and good dx in 2026
Martin
DK3UW
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 14:29:20 +0000
From: Paul O'Kane <pokane@ei5di.com>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: Expeditions remote
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On 07/01/2026 13:29, Martin Sellschopp wrote:
I just read  a note about the KP 5 Expedition. Will that be the future,
that a team dumps a container on a rare DXCC location and then operates
it
remote from home ? That is certainly a technical challenge but is that
still in the spirit of a DXCC ?
Of course it's in the spirit of DXCC, isn't it simply
station-to-station?communications over RF?

After all, we all know and accept that telephone contacts take place
between telephone instruments.? Who needs people?

On the other hand, not a single QSO with KP5 will be possible without
100% dependence on Starlink for each and every contact. Since amateur
radio QSOs, by definition (my definition), are person-to-person,
ham-band-RF-all-the-way contacts with no dependence on commercial
communications utilities, it follows that all contacts with KP5 will be
something other than ham radio? - I'd suggest "semi-professional
hybrid-communications" contacts.

Apparently, DXCC and contest sponsors are happy to
accept?semi-professional hybrid-communications contacts as being
equivalent, in all respects, to amateur radio QSOs.? They should think
again.

73,
Paul EI5DI

ps - The race is on!? Who will be the first to qualify for the DXCC 10k
Challenge?
http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/CQ-Contest/2013-06/msg00261.html





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