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RE: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM 2.5 cards do not report signal or noise w/TC.

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Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM 2.5 cards do not report signal or noise w/TC...
From: "Dan Metcalf" <dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com>
Reply-to: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 22:46:23 -0400
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
NATE,

I have the SNR 1 often w/ any non-lucent cards in the ap's, & rg's.  are
you using an ap or an rg?


Dan Metcalf
Wireless Broadband Sytems
dan.metcalf@wbsysnet.com
www.wirelessbroadbandsystems.com



> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
On
> Behalf Of Nate McLain
> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 10:28 AM
> To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM 2.5 cards do not report signal or
> noise w/TC...
> 
> We have mikrotik 200mW radios in the field and they seem to report
> everything correctly.
> If the readings are right...
> But you dont get the SNR of 1 unless the signal and noise are at the
> right levels.
> 
> I would like to hear from Karlnet on the subject as well.
> Are the readings that the mikrotik cards put out correct?
> Just curious.
> 
> 
> Nate
> 
> 
> > Ok, but with one clarification, _both_ signal and noise are not
> reported
> > correctly.  It would be very nice if TC could read the card, or a
> firmware
> > fix could make it so.  Do you know the status of other PRISM 2.5
> card as to
> > this reporting problem, ie; the Mikrotik 250mW cards?   Do they
> report the
> > signal/noise levels correctly to TC?   If so, then it's a matter of
> getting
> > the card manufacturer's firmware to adhere to this standard.   I
> wonder if
> > Doug could chime in here to confirm that this is a firmware problem
> with the
> > card?   Does Karlnet have a fix for this card?
> >
> > Norm
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
> > To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 9:24 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM card do not report signal or
> noise
> > w/TC...
> >
> >
> > > Norm
> > >
> > > This is correct, I believe Doug posted this is other day.  TC does
> not
> > > report noise level as the firmware on all Prism cards do not
> report it
> > > yet.  From what I have been told the card can do it if the
> firmware is
> > > change seems like a simple request, still looking into this.
> > >
> > > In the mean time we put in a request to grey out the s/n and noise
> > > readings as not to confuse things.
> > >
> > > Sincerely
> > > Tony Morella
> > > Demarc Technology Group
> > > Office: 908-996-7995
> > > Cell: 908-246-9170
> > > Fax: 908-847-0202
> > > email: tony@demarctech.com
> > > http://www.demarctech.com
> > > Wireless Solution Provider
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-
> admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > > On Behalf Of Norm Young
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 11:45 PM
> > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > Subject: [Karlnet] 100 mW PRISM card do not report signal or noise
> > > w/TC...
> > >
> > >
> > > Tony, I tried your 100mW PRISM 2.5 cards in TC v4.02/AP-1000/SA-
> 4400,
> > > and while the signal gains at the CPE's were impressive (7-8dB
> reported
> > > from the CPE Orinoco radio on average), the reporting from the
> PRISM 2.5
> > > card was, well, non-existent.  All of my CPEs are reported to have
> a S/N
> > > of 1, signal -94, noise, -95.  Obviously bogus, obviously not
> reported
> > > correctly by the card, or correctly interpreted by Karlnet TC.
> > >
> > > Norm
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
> > > To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 8:38 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] AP1000 with non-lucent cards
> > >
> > >
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > > This is correct at this time, I have not received a update on
> whether
> > > > or not SEC will be supported on the Prism chip.  Doug any
> comments on
> > > > this??
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely
> > > > Tony Morella
> > > > Demarc Technology Group
> > > > Office: 908-996-7995
> > > > Cell: 908-246-9170
> > > > Fax: 908-847-0202
> > > > email: tony@demarctech.com
> > > > http://www.demarctech.com
> > > > Wireless Solution Provider
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-
> admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > > > On Behalf Of Larry Yunker
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:24 PM
> > > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] AP1000 with non-lucent cards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So you are stating that you can't even run 100mw cards in SEC
> mode in
> > > > a PC running a karlnet flash-rom kit?  This sounds worse than I
> had
> > > > thought.  I was really hoping to stay with Karlnet for it's nice
> > > > client signal monitoring capability.  But I really need to get
> cards
> > > > with more juice than 35mw and I really DON'T want to resort to
> AMPs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > > > From: "Tony " <tonylist@wwwbiz.com>
> > > > Reply-To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:06:08 -0400
> > > >
> > > > >Larry
> > > > >
> > > > >Your request is for SEC which is not an option under the prism
> cards,
> > >
> > > > >SEC only works for Orinoco cards.
> > > > >
> > > > >Sincerely
> > > > >Tony Morella
> > > > >Demarc Technology Group
> > > > >Office: 908-996-7995
> > > > >Cell: 908-246-9170
> > > > >Fax: 908-847-0202
> > > > >email: tony@demarctech.com
> > > > >http://www.demarctech.com
> > > > >Wireless Solution Provider
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> > > > >[mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > > > >On Behalf Of Larry Yunker
> > > > >Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 4:33 PM
> > > > >To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > >Subject: RE: [Karlnet] AP1000 with non-lucent cards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Hmm... I could have sworn that there were a few guys that had
> the
> > > > >AP-1000's running in Turbocell mode with the prism cards.
> > > > >
> > > > >Here is what I need:
> > > > >
> > > > >Some sort of hardware suitable for tower mounting (lightweight,
> > > > >weather
> > > >
> > > > >resistant, Power-over-ethernet, etc, etc)
> > > > >
> > > > >Karlnet SEC BASE
> > > > >three 100mw Cards (to run 3 sector antennas)
> > > > >one standard 35mw Lucent Silver/Gold Card (to run backhaul to
> NOC
> > > > >cross-polarized and 25ft vertical separation from the sectors)
> > > > >
> > > > >Does anyone market a 4-PCMCIA-slot SBC's with Karlnet
> firmware?  Or
> > > > >maybe I'll just need to get two 2-PCMCIA slot SBC's with
> Karlnet.
> > > > >
> > > > >Anyway... if Karlnet has any suggestions or if any vendors
> would like
> > >
> > > > >to contact me off-list, I'm looking for a solution!
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks,
> > > > >Larry
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > > > >From: "Support" <support@karlnet.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > >Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:47:59 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >>The higher output radios don't work in the AP-1000.  The
> hardware
> > > > >>isn't
> > > > >
> > > > >>setup to handle the power.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Doug Harman
> > > > >>KarlNet, Inc.
> > > > >>525 Metro Place North
> > > > >>Suite 100
> > > > >>Dublin, OH 43017
> > > > >>614 822-5275 x 123
> > > > >>614 822-0024 fax
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> > > > >>> [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]On
> > > > >>> Behalf Of Larry Yunker
> > > > >>> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:25 AM
> > > > >>> To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > >>> Subject: [Karlnet] AP1000 with non-lucent cards
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Has anyone had any luck running the AP1000 in 802.11b mode
> with
> > > > >>> non-lucent cards.  I'm hoping to find a 100mw solution, but
> it has
> > > > to
> > > > >
> > > > >>> be 802.11b mode NOT Turbocell.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Does the Karlnet SEC Base software let me do this?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> _______________________________________________
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> > > > >>> Karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > >>> http://lists.wispnotes.com/mailman/listinfo/karlnet
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> 
> Nate McLain
> Chisholm Trail Networks LLC
> nate@ctrail.net
> http://www.ctrail.net
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