Doug, doesn't your figures below about the number of customers at a given
data rate assume that they are all consuming their rated BW simultaneously?
So, say, a bunch of 128k customers in real-life would probably never all
want their rated BW at the exact same moment, so effectively, a radio could
support many more than 39 customers assuming a 5 Mbps connection, correct?
(I hope this is correct, as I don't see how anyone could make money selling
39 connections of almost anything and having to buy 3 or so T1s to support
those 39 customers!)
Norm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Support" <support@karlnet.com>
To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 6:21 AM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Max Number of users with Karlnet?
> Travis,
>
> The 200 remotes is a "Wow" number we are working towards. There is no
> guarantee, but you set goals and try. Of course the bandwidth you promise
> customers and your RF link quality are the leading factors in numbers of
> remote stations you can hook up. So if you have 5 Mbps throughput and
> everyone you sign up wants 1Mbps then the total number of customers can be
> 5. If you sign everyone up at 128k then 39 is the limit. If your RF link
> is poor then the throughput goes down from retransmissions and the number
of
> simultaneous connections is lower. So this is something to keep in mind
as
> we add more connections to the software.
>
> Doug Harman
> KarlNet, Inc.
> 525 Metro Place North
> Suite 100
> Dublin, OH 43017
> 614 822-5275 x 123
> 614 822-0024 fax
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]On
> > Behalf Of Travis Brown
> > Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 4:42 PM
> > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Max Number of users with Karlnet?
> >
> >
> > Doug,
> >
> > 200? Wow... Can the hardware really support that?
> >
> > Everyone gets a timeslice the size of a toothpick. :-)
> >
> > Travis
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Support
> > Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 4:35 PM
> > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Max Number of users with Karlnet?
> >
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > I think the confusion comes from some people calling the entire Wireless
> > Bridge/Router a "radio". So someone will say the limit is 64 per
> > "radio" when actually they mean the entire hardware unit. So far we've
> > only had a handful of people needing more than 64 remote units per Base.
> > In this case we gave them a beta copy of a bin with support for 128
> > remotes and we got feedback that it worked. When we feel comfortable
> > that 128 remotes works well on a number of networks, then the next step
> > will be for 200 +/- remotes per wireless bridge.
> >
> > Doug Harman
> > KarlNet, Inc.
> > 525 Metro Place North
> > Suite 100
> > Dublin, OH 43017
> > 614 822-5275 x 123
> > 614 822-0024 fax
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> > > [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Jim
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:05 AM
> > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Max Number of users with Karlnet?
> > >
> > >
> > > I was sold Karlnet under the impression that I could currently support
> >
> > > 64 users PER RADIO and that very soon (3 month or so ago) that number
> > > would go to 128 users PER RADIO.
> > >
> > > If what you are saying is correct, and ESPECIALLY if I will be
> > > expected to pay more for a higher user support key, I am through with
> > > Karlnet.
> > >
> > > Jim Evans
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
> > > To: <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 10:49 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Max Number of users with Karlnet?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Larry,
> > > >
> > > > We are working to get the unit to support MORE users. This is
> > > an issue of
> > > > programming and my understanding is we have to "move" some things
> > > > around
> > > to
> > > > make room in the tables for more users.
> > > >
> > > > A key for 96 users is, I believe, in test at this time.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]On
> > > > Behalf Of barrywhitcomb
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:40 AM
> > > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Max Number of users with Karlnet?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I asked just this question to the Karlnet people at the WISPCON
> > > > show. I intentionally asked this question very clearly to make sure
> > > > that I understood. I was told that Turbo ISP basestation FlashROM
> > > > would support multiple radios, each with 48-64 users depending on
> > > > version (and with 96 users " very soon").
> > > >
> > > > Barry Whitcomb
> > > > Quantum Success, Inc. / All Clear Wireless
> > > > 265 Paces Lakes Drive
> > > > Dallas, GA 30157
> > > > 770-505-1896
> > > > F: 770-234-5334
> > > >
> > > > www.all-clear.biz
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]
> > > > On Behalf Of Larry Yunker
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 10:33 AM
> > > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Max Number of users with Karlnet?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't agree that the limit should be set up this way. If a single
> >
> > > > radio can support up to 64 client sessions, then 3 radios SHOULD be
> > > > allowed to support 64 X 3. I understand that Karlnet support just
> > > > said that it doesn't work this way, but it really SHOULD, it would
> > > > be a service to their clients if they would change that limit.
> > > >
> > > > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > > > From: "Support" <support@karlnet.com>
> > > > Reply-To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 09:38:26 -0400
> > > >
> > > > >Hello Nate, thanks for the inquiry. The 64 user license is for the
> > > > >"box" unit.This is a combination of ALL RADIO interfaces, this
> > > > >number is based on expected throughput.So the answer would be
> > > > >false, 3x64 is not a viable solution.RLM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com
> > > > >[mailto:karlnet-admin@WISPNotes.com]On
> > > > >Behalf Of Nate McLain
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:18 PM
> > > > >To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > >Subject: [Karlnet] Max Number of users with Karlnet?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >I have a question about how many users you can put on a flashrom
> > > > >unit? Maybe Doug can answer this question. When Im in the
> > > > >configuration of the flashrom it shows that you can put 64
> > > > >satellite's on the interface. And I have 3 radio interfaces so we
> > > > >should be able to put 3 x 64 satellites = 192 satellites. Or is
> > > > >this false?? Because that is what I thought. But I was told
> > > > >otherwise.
> > > > >
> > > > >Can someone from Karlnet give some insight into this question??
> > > > >
> > > > >TIA,
> > > > >
> > > > >Nate McLain
> > > > >Chisholm Trail Networks LLC
> > > > >nate@ctrail.net
> > > > >http://www.ctrail.net
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