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Re: [Karlnet] KN is too much $$$ now

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Subject: Re: [Karlnet] KN is too much $$$ now
From: "Bob Hrbek" <bhrbek@jagwireless.com>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:35:33 -0600
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I charge an INSTALL that is lower than my actual hardware costs.  I eat the labor of the install but retain ownership of the CPE.  If my customer goes to another isp/wisp....I get my gear back. :)
 
I try to have my gear paid off on each customer within 2 months.   256K/256K ~ $70/mo.  More for VPN type setups.
 
-bob
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 7:26 AM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] KN is too much $$$ now

The biggest difference is what you are paying for your RGs.
We bought 300 RG-1100s and got them for $115, $117 each shipped.
And we can also get away using the $30-35 Maxrad WISPerformance antenna's as well.
All areas are different. And that $285-295 is with NO labor. Add $100 in labor and I'm right up there close to the $400 range.
 
For us Karlnet is great!!! Does everything we want it to do and more. That we would like to figure out how to do.. .:-)
 
How are the rest of you doing your installation fee?
What are you charging for your monthly fee and what speeds?
 
Are there any people doing any leasing with IBC on CPE equipment?
 
Nate
-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Norm Young
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:10 PM
To: Karlnet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] KN is too much $$$ now

Sweet!   We are also using RG1100s and the SR-4000. 
 
You must be using a fairly inexpensive antenna?  Almost all of our installs are 24dB parabolic grids ($65).  Mount at $15. Pigtails at $12.50.  Enclosure, $17.  Two N-male LMR-400 crimps at $4.50.  And of course, RGs at $170, KN at $65.  $5 of CAT5, $5 of LMR.  Right up around $360 right there.   Plus the labor to put all this together.
 
Where's the difference(s)?
 
Norm 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] KN is too much $$$ now

I got to tell ya. Our current CPE solution that we use is running right at $285. That is for everything.
But also using RG-1100's and SR-4000 license.
With Outdoor Rated Gel Filled CAT5 cable.
 
Nate
-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Bill Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:40 PM
To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
Subject: [Karlnet] KN is too much $$$ now

Before:
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RG = $115.00
 
After
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New MB = $150 + $50 (radio) = $200
 
Add LMR, connectors, arrestor, POE, antenna, mount, enclosure, and CAT-5.
 
I thought this new stuff was going to be priced around $300 for an all-in-one with license?  That was what I heard at WISPCON-II.
 
Bill Fisher
Akorn Access, Inc.
770-569-1550


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