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To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@wispnotes.com>
Subject: Fw: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
From: "Bob Hrbek" <bhrbek@jagwireless.com>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:33:49 -0600
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
 http://www.trangobroadband.com/Products/pricing.cfm

 3-mile SU $495
 10-mile SU  $595
 AP $895

 But, they are ready to install....not customizations necessary.  Plug in
the
 RJ-45, twist the compression fitting, secure to tower, forget about it.  I
 don't think I'd use them for residential but for SOHO and up ($100/mo and
up
 accounts).  I'll eat a little to get the advantages of this radio
 (dual-polarizations, selectable radio power, rf monitor, hardened chipsets,
 FCC certed, etc.)

 -bob.

 ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nate McLain" <nate@ctrail.net>
> To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:31 PM
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
>
>
> > What kind of a price are you getting for the APs & SUs now?
> > Last time I checked they were still about $500 for the SUs.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:27 PM
> > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> >
> >
> > Backhauls now....CPE's next week.  We deployed them as backhauls
initially
> > and REALLY like them (except for their 10-mile dishes but we are fixing
> that
> > with some radiowaves 2' dishes).  Trango is due to release some new gear
> in
> > march that (from the sounds of it) should kick the pants off anything
out
> > there.  They recently dropped their prices as well.  It really is good
> > stuff.  Very much like some of the TC stuff though....high latency until
> the
> > link is utilized decently but they did do some ptp fixes in the recent
fw
> > release.  If there is a single SU configured, it doesn't poll and you'll
> get
> > 2ms- latency.
> >
> > We have one trango AP and 2 10-mile SU's at this point but I've got a
P.O.
> > for 4 AP's and 10 CPE's.  I'm sold on the gear.  Cheap reliable and
> 6-7mbps.
> > (good, fast and cheap!)
> >
> > -bob
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nate McLain" <nate@ctrail.net>
> > To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:10 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> >
> >
> > > How do you like those Trango units?
> > > I was pretty impressed with the Trango & Waverider equipment at
> WISPCON2.
> > > Are you only using them for backhaul units only?
> > > Do ya have any APs out there with CPE?
> > >
> > > Nate
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:06 PM
> > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmm, I've got an AP-1000 setup like this..
> > >
> > > internet ~~~~trango~~~AP-1000~~~~~AP-1000~~~~Rg-1000  All routed but I
> see
> > > 33-40 ms pings. 14 customers
> > >
> > > at another site I have
> > >
> > > internet ~~~~trango~~~ap-1000~~~RG-1000cpe   Bridged, I see 3 - 10 ms
> ping
> > > times.  36 customers
> > >
> > >
> > > I wonder how much your latency will drop.
> > >
> > >
> > > -bob
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Nate McLain" <nate@ctrail.net>
> > > To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:55 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> > >
> > >
> > > > I usually get about 300-600Kbps.
> > > > And my ping times from my house are around 14-22ms. But that is
going
> > > across
> > > > my trusty Breezecom Pro.11 equipment to get there first... So Im not
a
> > > good
> > > > candidate for latency since i have a extra hop or so. But we are
going
> > to
> > > > replace it with the AP1000 pretty soon and then we will be able to
see
> > if
> > > > the throughput increases or not.
> > > >
> > > > At times the throughput might go down to 200Kbps. But since we are
> > selling
> > > > 128Kb connections it isnt that big of a problem. The clients dont
see
> > any
> > > > problem.. Just the guys that try to squeeze as much out of it as we
> > can..
> > > > ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Nate
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Bob Hrbek
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:41 PM
> > > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 20 users on an RG-1000 huh??? what is your throughput like?  How
about
> > > > latency (pings)?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Nate McLain" <nate@ctrail.net>
> > > > To: <mark@ekiva.net>; "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:32 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > We have a RG-1000 that is running Turbocell v 3.88 and it doesn't
> have
> > > the
> > > > 8
> > > > > user limitation that the newer versions have.
> > > > > We have 20 users on this base station and it runs just fine.
> > > > > So there is something in the software that is stopping us from
> adding
> > > more
> > > > > then 8 on the a RG. Otherwise we would probably upgrade our
> licenses.
> >
> > > But
> > > > we
> > > > > will just upgrade it with a AP-1000 instead.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nate
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Mark Wauchope
> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:38 PM
> > > > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That has nothing to do with it.  A 486 running that lean of an OS
> can
> > > > > support more than 8 subscribers easily.  KarlNet does not allow
more
> > > > > than 8 subscribers most likely so you will be required to get more
> > > > > expensive hardware.  They must have some deal with Proxim so users
> > will
> > > > > be forced to upgrade to the AP-1000 if they want to support more
> > > > > subscribers.  It is purely a marketing strategy.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Mark Wauchope, Director of Engineering, Kivanet Inc
> > > > > 776 East Second Avenue Suite 207 Durango, CO  81301
> > > > > 970-749-2711  http://www.ekiva.net/  mark@ekiva.net
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Charles
> > > > > > Chia Sheng Wu
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:42 PM
> > > > > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the RG only has a x486 processor
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Charles
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Andrew
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:24 PM
> > > > > > To: karlnet@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > > Subject: [Karlnet] RG ISP Base
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can anybody advise what the Client limit is on an RG1000 with
> > > > > > ISP Base load.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I assume it is 8 x subscribers, but want to know if that is a
> > > > > > physical limitation at the MAC level or a performance
> > > > > > recommendation that can be over subscribed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > > Andrew
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