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RE: [Karlnet] Answers to Questions about UBICOM devices

To: "Brett Hays" <bretth@htonline.net>, "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Answers to Questions about UBICOM devices
From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 07:29:57 -0500
List-post: <mailto:karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Yes, we do know pricing!

We have been saying for some time that the Ubicom board, with PoE, inside a
flat panel antenna will sell for $299 list. This INCLUDES software
(TurboCell and bridging only - remember, not much processor to work with)and
PoE injector with power supply.  Expect street price to be somewhat lower.

Kevin



-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Brett Hays
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 11:21 PM
To: Karlnet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Answers to Questions about UBICOM devices


Kevin,

   I don't think there's any question, I just want to do that now, with
Karlnet CPE's.  I think sub $200 install is the key in my market, so I hope
the new Karlnet option is around the $250-$275 mark with antenna so we don't
have to eat too much of the install cost to hit that mark.

    Insight cable in my market is $44.95 per month ($10 less if you are
already a cable customer) and $129 to buy a cable modem or $15 a month
rental.  Assisted install (who knows what that means) is $29 and premium
install is $99.

    I have to be somewhere in that ballpark to be competitive.  With a
nearly $400 CPE cost currently, I can't even compete.  I am doing well with
business customers, but virtually the only residential I have are the owners
of the businesses I have at home.

    The installation fees are the killer.  I offer DSL service at $70 a
month (frickin' Verizon gets $40 of that) with a $110 install including
modem.  Nearly every day people opt for that service rather than the same
speed wireless for $45 a month with a $400 install.  I am convinced that my
only shot is a lower priced install.  I have thought long and hard about
going the NDIS route, but then we end up supporting Microsoft Internet
Connection Sharing as most customers have more than one pc.  I am hoping the
UBICOM option will get me near NDIS pricing (once you include the lmr cable,
etc).

    Can you tell us anything about final pricing yet?

Brett Hays
Hometown Online
www.htonline.net


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
To: "Karlnet Mailing List" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 9:13 PM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Answers to Questions about UBICOM devices


> These are VERY VALID points.
>
> I agree it is VERY difficult to compete with cable and DSL in the
> residential market.  In my previous WISP background, we served businesses
> only.
>
> However- I think our industry as a whole will grow when someone can
> successfully market sub $300 (and then sub $200) CPE devices.
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of Caleb Carroll
> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 7:47 PM
> To: Brett Hays; Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] Answers to Questions about UBICOM devices
>
>
> It would be nice if CPE prices were lower.
>
> My $.02 = Read a Book... namely "Mastering Guerrilla Marketing" by Jay
> Levinson.
>
> One of the insights offered is "Find your Niche Market"  In your
situation,
> this might equate to Don't bother trying to compete with Cable ISP's &
ultra
> cheap CPE... Go after the rural market where the Cable Company can't go.
> Benefits to this are that one, the people you are offering service to in
> rural areas will be genuinely grateful for the service and two, you won't
> have to worry about CPE costs - if someone really wants the service, they
> will get it regardless of the price.
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>
> On 2003-May-01 at 6:38 PM Brett Hays wrote:
>
> >AMEN!!!!!!  Cable modems are eating our lunch here, we are priced
> >competitively on monthly access, but our cpe cost is killing sales!
> >
> >
> >> I am just not sure if I can say this any "nicer" but we really need a
> >> inexpensive CPE.  I am missing out on so many installs because folks
> >> think $250 is to much for an install.  They don't realize that we are
> >> already eating at least $150 of the cost of their gear.  Kevin, I
really
> >think
> >> it is critical for Karlnet to get this cheaper CPE out as soon as
> >possible.
> >> >
> >> > Just my $.02
> >> >
> >> > -Bob
> >
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