As a user of the KN-50 instilled in the integrated 18db CPE, I have had
little to no problems with the way it is designed. For us, it is a CPE:
it is designed to get a customer on the network in such a manner that is
competitive with other ISP CPEs. Since cable modems are now around 50
dollars, and most installations for ISDN, etc. dropping, the wireless
CPE has to remain competitive. No other CPE equipment uses DHCP or NAT
that I am aware of. We require the customer to purchase a router from
the local Staples (RP-614 netgear) and we advise that any special
modifications to the setup of the router require a third party, such as
the local network/ repair company. This keeps us from the liability of
touching the customer's network, and opening up any "cans o' worms", as
well as maintaining the router, by requiring them to purchase it. It
may not sound friendly, but with a large customer base, our company
simply cannot afford the problems associated with customer LANs. I have
not had any negative feedback on this business model.
Just my .02 worth.
Kenneth "Scott" Myers
Wireless Engineer
smyers@telsouth.net
(843) 842-7795 x 105
-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Knuth
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 12:28 PM
To: 'Norm Young'; 'Karlnet Mailing List'
Subject: [Karlnet] SNMP on KN-50
All,
Since there has been much discussion on the lists I did some checking
with the engineers.
Bottom line: it is VERY doubtful that we can add SNMP support to the
KN-50. There is simply not enough room in the chip to accommodate SNMP.
Kevin
**************************************
Kevin R. Knuth
Business Development Manager
North America
260-424-9690 Regional Office
614-822-5275 Corporate Office
kknuth@karlnet.com
www.karlnet.com
**************************************
-----Original Message-----
From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
[mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Norm Young
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:23 AM
To: Karlnet Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Karlnet] KARLNET RESPONSE_ Reduction of
Karlnetfeaturesw/outnotification.
I'd really like to see NAT/DHCP on the KN-50. We've been insisting on
customer's purchase of a router and that we manage it. However, it's a
slow slide into the hell of managing the customer's internal
network/devices.
Norm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: [Karlnet] KARLNET RESPONSE_ Reduction of Karlnet
featuresw/outnotification.
> In regards to your request list:
>
> 1. Once the initial Karlnet load is on, you will be able to upgrade
> units on your own. So if you buy a KN-50 you will be able to do
> future upgrades. 2. Working hard on 802.11a. Our initial BETA test
> had issues- apparently revolving around the older Atheros chipset. We
> are waiting on two things: Newer radios and mini-PCI versions of the
> KN-100, as we cannot find many cardbus 802.11a radios with external
> antenna connectors. You could use a flashrom with the RADIOLAN
> radios. We do have support for that currently.
> 3. I am checking on the SNMP support. But it seems to me that there
is
> a technical reason it is not there (meaning- I do not think it can be
> added), But I am checking!
>
> Some of your other points are harder to answer. Such as:
>
> Why is work going into hotspots instead of 802.11a or upgradeable
> KN-50s. Actually, it is all going on. We have teams of engineers
> working on different projects. The Hotspot product (WARP) was driven
> by market demand. We essentially have teams divided on the following
> projects:
>
> Karlbridge- This is our standard product with our custom kernel for
> TurboCell and 802.11.
> Hardware- Development of our own hardware and systems platforms
> UBICOM- Development of features for UBICOM processors
>
> And 2 internal projects that I cannot mention at this time.
>
> I understand that from your viewpoint it often looks like Karlnet is
> not progressing very fast. What is actually more common is the
> following
> scenario: Karlnet is contracted by XYZ corp to add features to their
> EOM version of a UBICOM reference design. That work is added to our
> knowledge base, so even if we do not fully implement the features of
XYZ
> corp, we have the ability too. That is how NAT/DHCP came about. We
> have developed the feature for someone else, now we can put it in our
> own version too. The TurboCell module gets in the way a bit, so that
> requires some changes. You must always remember, we are working the
> processor pretty hard with TurboCell, so it is not easy to add other
> features.
>
> What are we working on now? Well, 802.11a support, new systems, and
> enhanced features for the KN-50 are our primary projects.
>
> Hope that this clarifies some of your concerns!
>
> Kevin
>
> **************************************
> Kevin R. Knuth
> Business Development Manager
> North America
> 260-424-9690 Regional Office
> 614-822-5275 Corporate Office
> kknuth@karlnet.com
> www.karlnet.com
> **************************************
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Paul Horak
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:42 PM
> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] KARLNET RESPONSE_ Reduction of Karlnet features
> w/outnotification.
>
>
> Thanks for the update Kevin. I hope you don't mind me
> giving my 2 cents worth.
>
> I have tested a lot of different wireless solutions
> and I think Karlnet still has the best solution out
> there. However, I have also become a little frustrated
> with Karlnet over the last year or so and worry about
> the future. For someone with software so far ahead of
> the game a while ago, there doesn't seem to have been
> much progress and others are catching up fast. I
> wonder if development time at Karlnet is stretched to
> the limit? If so, I would happily get rid of DHCP,
> NAT, etc. and just buy a $50 router to do it (but
> please tell me first :-)).
>
> For me the key things I would like to see soon are:
>
> 1. Upgradable KN-50 type boards (having to send units
> back for an upgrade is a disaster waiting to happen in
> my view)
> 2. 802.11a support (so we can use 5GHz)
> 3. SNMP support in the KN-50s
>
> When I heard many months ago that 802.11a support was
> going into beta test in 'a week or two' I thought you
> would have a killer solution. The Turbocell software
> is very good and I have yet to see another outdoor
> wireless product more suitable for an ISP. I don't
> understand why devlopment time is going into Hotspot
> support and other features when basic problems like non-upgradeble
> KN-50s and lack of drivers for 802.11a still exist.
>
> If possible, I would love to hear what Karlnet
> consider priorities for future devlopment. I hope it
> is NOT NAT/DHCP support on the KN-50s....
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul
>
> --- Kevin Knuth <kknuth@karlnet.com> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > I wanted to give you an update. I have been off
> > work this week, but I
> > still read email and was very concerned about the
> > thread I was seeing
> > here (yes, Karlnet DOES monitor this list and YES we
> > do listen to
> > customers). ;)
> >
> > Anyway- We are adding NAT/DHCP back into the Sx-4000
> > series licenses.
> > This is NOT a limited time offer.
> >
> > >From what I gather, the decision to pull the
> > Sx-4000 licenses was a
> > based in a belief by our engineers that with the
> > KN-50, there was no
> > real benefit for the sx-4000 licenses anymore.
> >
> > Clearly this is incorrect!
> >
> > So- bottom line- You wanted a Sx-4000 license with
> > NAT/DHCP- and you got
> > it!
> >
> > Kevin
> > **************************************
> > Kevin R. Knuth
> > Business Development Manager
> > North America
> > 260-424-9690 Regional Office
> > 614-822-5275 Corporate Office
> > kknuth@karlnet.com
> > www.karlnet.com
> > **************************************
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Deaton
> > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:34 PM
> > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > Subject: [Karlnet] Reduction of Karlnet features
> > w/out notification.
> >
> >
> > Just FYI, not trying to start any flaming, but be
> > aware that karlnet is
> > working on removing features like NAT & DHCP from
> > the SR-4000 & possibly
> > others. We started flashing CPE's for our
> > contractors to have next week
> > & were met with an absence of NAT and DHCP as
> > options. This was a
> > change that was made last night without
> > notification, thus I am posting
> > here.
> >
> > Our standardized install entails contractors picking
> > up RG's or KN's
> > with NAT & DHCP so they always have a standard
> > installation & don't need
> > to understand IP addressing. This is important when
> > you have several
> > different subnets that they will be connecting to
> > (i.e. different towers
> > & channels). We then connect remotely on an
> > as-needed basis & change
> > settings if requested (i.e. client needs a public or
> > static IP), but by
> > default they're getting a NAT IP. We have found
> > this to be the best way
> > to simplify things for installers.
> >
> > I'd appreciate input on this concept as I know
> > Karlnet monitors this
> > thread. If many ISP's use the NAT & DHCP it may
> > help motivate them in
> > our favor. If not, it will help karlnet relieve
> > overhead by not
> > offering these features in the future. To confirm,
> > if you're using
> > bridging or routing as a normal setup, this won't
> > effect anything, so
> > don't stress. However, if you normally implement
> > NAT/DHCP it may not be
> > there anymore as of 7pm last night. You will still
> > pay the same for the
> > licenses, but received reduced features unless you
> > notify karlnet. We
> > found them to be interested in working with us to
> > meet our needs, so
> > this is more of a speed bump than a brick wall.
> > They have offered to
> > edit our web login, possibly all web logins, at license-it.com to
> > offer options for NAT/DHCP, so voice your approval or
> > disapproval so that they
> > know what their users like.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Steve Deaton
> > IT Director
> > Texas Broadband, Inc.
> > (888)868.3835 ext 85 (office)
> > 979.289.0148 (office)
> > 979.289.5117 (fax)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Ben Polson
> > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 2:38 PM
> > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Conversion of SNR values to
> > dB
> >
> > Thanks Phil. Sure, I'd love to see what this has
> > produced for you.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of
> > Phil
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:33 PM
> > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Conversion of SNR values to
> > dB
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if it is correct but I've been
> > dividing by 2 and then
> > > subtracting 95. I can show some examples of my
> > S/N graphs that I
> > > generate for all of our customers and APs if
> > anyone wants to see them.
> >
> > > (not attached of course)
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ben Polson [mailto:bsp@bandwave.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:33 AM
> > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > Subject: [Karlnet] Conversion of SNR values to dB
> > >
> > > Does anyone know the algorithm to convert the
> > INTEGER values returned
> > > from the OIDs for signal and noise into dB values?
> > >
> > > A signal value of 86 and noise value of 10 aren't
> > as helpful as the dB
> >
> > > values. Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > -Ben.
> > >
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