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Re: [Karlnet] KN-50 SNMP/ Net Management Server

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Subject: Re: [Karlnet] KN-50 SNMP/ Net Management Server
From: jna <jna@tcpbbs.net>
Reply-to: Karlnet Mailing List <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:44:03 -0500
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Do you have a sample config file you could pass on for examination?
Monitoring these things would be great.

Thanks,
John


> We use MRTG to graph signal/noise and traffic in/out on every piece of
> hardware we have - including all our KN-100/200 boards that we use as the
> CPE.
>
> Regards,
> Jayson A. Baker
> Peak Internet Solutions
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]
> On Behalf Of smyers
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:42 PM
> To: 'Brett Hays'; 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> Subject: [Karlnet] KN-50 SNMP/ Net Management Server
>
> Yes I too agree that SNMP management across the board would be a plus.
> I am still working on developing a reliable and stable way to
> graph and log signal strengths, errors, packets per hour, etc. (a.k.a
> true network "health") across my network and once I reach a nice medium
> in design I am sure the extra snmp management at the "edge" would be a
> plus.
> I am working in Linux, which is a negative only because the
> current set-up and config/ management programs I have run in Windows,
> and apart from using WINE to run them on a linux machine, I am still in
> the process of adopting the management server into a linux format. (I
> have heard of a JAVA based config program, still researching)I have been
> using MRTG to piece together the system's attributes, including
> graphing.
> (NOTE: If anyone can tell me the specific SNMP value(s) Karlnet
> uses to remote open a link test with the initiator, I would be most
> appreciative.  No word back from Karlnet themselves on that one, but I
> don't mind, I will find it one way or another.)
>
> Kenneth "Scott" Myers
> Wireless Engineer
> smyers@telsouth.net
> (843) 842-7795 x 105
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Brett Hays
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 12:05 PM
> To: Karlnet Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Karlnet] SNMP on KN-50
>
> I agree in terms of dhcp and nat on the KN50.  I just wish it could
> support
> snmp so we could use Configurator across the board to manage the
> network.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "smyers" <wifiengineer@telsouth.net>
> To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:57 AM
> Subject: RE: [Karlnet] SNMP on KN-50
>
>
> > As a user of the KN-50 instilled in the integrated 18db CPE, I have
> had
> > little to no problems with the way it is designed.  For us, it is a
> CPE:
> > it is designed to get a customer on the network in such a manner that
> is
> > competitive with other ISP CPEs.  Since cable modems are now around 50
> > dollars, and most installations for ISDN, etc. dropping, the wireless
> > CPE has to remain competitive.  No other CPE equipment uses DHCP or
> NAT
> > that I am aware of. We require the customer to purchase a router from
> > the local Staples (RP-614 netgear) and we advise that any special
> > modifications to the setup of the router require a third party, such
> as
> > the local network/ repair company.  This keeps us from the liability
> of
> > touching the customer's network, and opening up any "cans o' worms",
> as
> > well as maintaining the router, by requiring them to purchase it.  It
> > may not sound friendly, but with a large customer base, our company
> > simply cannot afford the problems associated with customer LANs.  I
> have
> > not had any negative feedback on this business model.
> >
> > Just my .02 worth.
> >
> > Kenneth "Scott" Myers
> > Wireless Engineer
> > smyers@telsouth.net
> > (843) 842-7795 x 105
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Knuth
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 12:28 PM
> > To: 'Norm Young'; 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > Subject: [Karlnet] SNMP on KN-50
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Since there has been much discussion on the lists I did some checking
> > with the engineers.
> >
> > Bottom line: it is VERY doubtful that we can add SNMP support to the
> > KN-50. There is simply not enough room in the chip to accommodate
> SNMP.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > **************************************
> > Kevin R. Knuth
> > Business Development Manager
> > North America
> > 260-424-9690 Regional Office
> > 614-822-5275 Corporate Office
> > kknuth@karlnet.com
> > www.karlnet.com
> > **************************************
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Norm Young
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:23 AM
> > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] KARLNET RESPONSE_ Reduction of
> > Karlnetfeaturesw/outnotification.
> >
> >
> > I'd really like to see NAT/DHCP on the KN-50.   We've been insisting
> on
> > customer's purchase of a router and that we manage it.  However, it's
> a
> > slow slide into the hell of managing the customer's internal
> > network/devices.
> >
> > Norm
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Kevin Knuth" <kknuth@karlnet.com>
> > To: "'Karlnet Mailing List'" <karlnet@WISPNotes.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:19 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] KARLNET RESPONSE_ Reduction of Karlnet
> > featuresw/outnotification.
> >
> >
> > > In regards to your request list:
> > >
> > > 1. Once the initial Karlnet load is on, you will be able to upgrade
> > > units on your own.  So if you buy a KN-50 you will be able to do
> > > future upgrades. 2. Working hard on 802.11a.  Our initial BETA test
> > > had issues- apparently revolving around the older Atheros chipset.
> We
> >
> > > are waiting on two things:  Newer radios and mini-PCI versions of
> the
> > > KN-100, as we cannot find many cardbus 802.11a radios with external
> > > antenna connectors.  You could use a flashrom with the RADIOLAN
> > > radios.  We do have support for that currently.
> > > 3. I am checking on the SNMP support.  But it seems to me that there
> > is
> > > a technical reason it is not there (meaning- I do not think it can
> be
> > > added), But I am checking!
> > >
> > > Some of your other points are harder to answer.  Such as:
> > >
> > > Why is work going into hotspots instead of 802.11a or upgradeable
> > > KN-50s.  Actually, it is all going on.  We have teams of engineers
> > > working on different projects.  The Hotspot product (WARP) was
> driven
> > > by market demand.  We essentially have teams divided on the
> following
> > > projects:
> > >
> > > Karlbridge- This is our standard product with our custom kernel for
> > > TurboCell and 802.11.
> > > Hardware- Development of our own hardware and systems platforms
> > > UBICOM- Development of features for UBICOM processors
> > >
> > > And 2 internal projects that I cannot mention at this time.
> > >
> > > I understand that from your viewpoint it often looks like Karlnet is
> > > not progressing very fast.  What is actually more common is the
> > > following
> > > scenario:  Karlnet is contracted by XYZ corp to add features to
> their
> > > EOM version of a UBICOM reference design.  That work is added to our
> > > knowledge base, so even if we do not fully implement the features of
> > XYZ
> > > corp, we have the ability too.  That is how NAT/DHCP came about.  We
> > > have developed the feature for someone else, now we can put it in
> our
> > > own version too.  The TurboCell module gets in the way a bit, so
> that
> > > requires some changes.  You must always remember, we are working the
> > > processor pretty hard with TurboCell, so it is not easy to add other
> > > features.
> > >
> > > What are we working on now?  Well, 802.11a support, new systems, and
> > > enhanced features for the KN-50 are our primary projects.
> > >
> > > Hope that this clarifies some of your concerns!
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > **************************************
> > > Kevin R. Knuth
> > > Business Development Manager
> > > North America
> > > 260-424-9690 Regional Office
> > > 614-822-5275 Corporate Office
> > > kknuth@karlnet.com
> > > www.karlnet.com
> > > **************************************
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Paul Horak
> > > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:42 PM
> > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Karlnet] KARLNET RESPONSE_ Reduction of Karlnet
> features
> >
> > > w/outnotification.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the update Kevin. I hope you don't mind me
> > > giving my 2 cents worth.
> > >
> > > I have tested a lot of different wireless solutions
> > > and I think Karlnet still has the best solution out
> > > there. However, I have also become a little frustrated
> > > with Karlnet over the last year or so and worry about
> > > the future. For someone with software so far ahead of
> > > the game a while ago, there doesn't seem to have been
> > > much progress and others are catching up fast. I
> > > wonder if development time at Karlnet is stretched to
> > > the limit? If so, I would happily get rid of DHCP,
> > > NAT, etc. and just buy a $50 router to do it (but
> > > please tell me first :-)).
> > >
> > > For me the key things I would like to see soon are:
> > >
> > > 1. Upgradable KN-50 type boards (having to send units
> > > back for an upgrade is a disaster waiting to happen in
> > > my view)
> > > 2. 802.11a support (so we can use 5GHz)
> > > 3. SNMP support in the KN-50s
> > >
> > > When I heard many months ago that 802.11a support was
> > > going into beta test in 'a week or two' I thought you
> > > would have a killer solution. The Turbocell software
> > > is very good and I have yet to see another outdoor
> > > wireless product more suitable for an ISP. I don't
> > > understand why devlopment time is going into Hotspot
> > > support and other features when basic problems like non-upgradeble
> > > KN-50s and lack of drivers for 802.11a still exist.
> > >
> > > If possible, I would love to hear what Karlnet
> > > consider priorities for future devlopment. I hope it
> > > is NOT NAT/DHCP support on the KN-50s....
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > --- Kevin Knuth <kknuth@karlnet.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > > I wanted to give you an update.  I have been off
> > > > work this week, but I
> > > > still read email and was very concerned about the
> > > > thread I was seeing
> > > > here (yes, Karlnet DOES monitor this list and YES we
> > > > do listen to
> > > > customers).  ;)
> > > >
> > > > Anyway- We are adding NAT/DHCP back into the Sx-4000
> > > > series licenses.
> > > > This is NOT a limited time offer.
> > > >
> > > > >From what I gather, the decision to pull the
> > > > Sx-4000 licenses was a
> > > > based in a belief by our engineers that with the
> > > > KN-50, there was no
> > > > real benefit for the sx-4000 licenses anymore.
> > > >
> > > > Clearly this is incorrect!
> > > >
> > > > So- bottom line- You wanted a Sx-4000 license with
> > > > NAT/DHCP- and you got
> > > > it!
> > > >
> > > > Kevin
> > > > **************************************
> > > > Kevin R. Knuth
> > > > Business Development Manager
> > > > North America
> > > > 260-424-9690 Regional Office
> > > > 614-822-5275 Corporate Office
> > > > kknuth@karlnet.com
> > > > www.karlnet.com
> > > > **************************************
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Deaton
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:34 PM
> > > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > > Subject: [Karlnet] Reduction of Karlnet features
> > > > w/out notification.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Just FYI, not trying to start any flaming, but be
> > > > aware that karlnet is
> > > > working on removing features like NAT & DHCP from
> > > > the SR-4000 & possibly
> > > > others.  We started flashing CPE's for our
> > > > contractors to have next week
> > > > & were met with an absence of NAT and DHCP as
> > > > options.  This was a
> > > > change that was made last night without
> > > > notification, thus I am posting
> > > > here.
> > > >
> > > > Our standardized install entails contractors picking
> > > > up RG's or KN's
> > > > with NAT & DHCP so they always have a standard
> > > > installation & don't need
> > > > to understand IP addressing.  This is important when
> > > > you have several
> > > > different subnets that they will be connecting to
> > > > (i.e. different towers
> > > > & channels).  We then connect remotely on an
> > > > as-needed basis & change
> > > > settings if requested (i.e. client needs a public or
> > > > static IP), but by
> > > > default they're getting a NAT IP.  We have found
> > > > this to be the best way
> > > > to simplify things for installers.
> > > >
> > > > I'd appreciate input on this concept as I know
> > > > Karlnet monitors this
> > > > thread.  If many ISP's use the NAT & DHCP it may
> > > > help motivate them in
> > > > our favor.  If not, it will help karlnet relieve
> > > > overhead by not
> > > > offering these features in the future.  To confirm,
> > > > if you're using
> > > > bridging or routing as a normal setup, this won't
> > > > effect anything, so
> > > > don't stress.  However, if you normally implement
> > > > NAT/DHCP it may not be
> > > > there anymore as of 7pm last night.  You will still
> > > > pay the same for the
> > > > licenses, but received reduced features unless you
> > > > notify karlnet.  We
> > > > found them to be interested in working with us to
> > > > meet our needs, so
> > > > this is more of a speed bump than a brick wall.
> > > > They have offered to
> > > > edit our web login, possibly all web logins, at license-it.com to
> > > > offer options for NAT/DHCP, so voice your approval or
> > > > disapproval so that they
> > > > know what their users like.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Steve Deaton
> > > > IT Director
> > > > Texas Broadband, Inc.
> > > > (888)868.3835 ext 85 (office)
> > > > 979.289.0148 (office)
> > > > 979.289.5117 (fax)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com] On Behalf Of Ben Polson
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 2:38 PM
> > > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Conversion of SNR values to
> > > > dB
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Phil.  Sure, I'd love to see what this has
> > > > produced for you.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com
> > > > > [mailto:karlnet-bounces@WISPNotes.com]On Behalf Of
> > > > Phil
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:33 PM
> > > > > To: 'Karlnet Mailing List'
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Karlnet] Conversion of SNR values to
> > > > dB
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure if it is correct but I've been
> > > > dividing by 2 and then
> > > > > subtracting 95.  I can show some examples of my
> > > > S/N graphs that I
> > > > > generate for all of our customers and APs if
> > > > anyone wants to see them.
> > > >
> > > > > (not attached of course)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ben Polson [mailto:bsp@bandwave.net]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:33 AM
> > > > > To: Karlnet Mailing List
> > > > > Subject: [Karlnet] Conversion of SNR values to dB
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know the algorithm to convert the
> > > > INTEGER values returned
> > > > > from the OIDs for signal and noise into dB values?
> > > > >
> > > > > A signal value of 86 and noise value of 10 aren't
> > > > as helpful as the dB
> > > >
> > > > > values.  Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Ben.
> > > > >
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