“What you really mean is that you misrepresented yourself and lied about
being an installer. Our hobby doesn't need to be known for fostering that
kind of vendor relationship. Frankly, I hope those of us here are done
assisting you.”
Well when you call a company and the only options are getting lost in press
1,2,3 jungle that leads to nowhere you do what you need to to speak with a
real person. It worked, and Solar Wave called me back, and was very
interested in assisting. At the beginning of the call I clearly identified
myself and explained I was NOT an installer.. They had no problem and
apologized for being difficult to contact. If you don’t ask, you don’t get
*Best 73 de WA2SQQElmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are those we
don't ask"*
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> From: "chuck.gooden" <chuck.gooden@comcast.net>
> To: Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ <wa2sqq@gmail.com>, Stephanie WX3K
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> ARRL email appears to be working just fine based on the emails I have
> received over the last week.Chuck K9LC
> -------- Original message --------From: Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ <
> wa2sqq@gmail.com> Date: 6/5/24 12:14 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Stephanie WX3K <
> wx3k@yahoo.com>, rfi <rfi@contesting.com> Subject: Re: [RFI] My biggest
> fear is happening I sent an email to Steve Anderson, but I?m not sure if
> the ARRL email isback up and running. I also left him a voice message. We
> decided to contactsolar wave on my own and after masquerading as an
> installer I actually gotsomeone to call me back. I may have got lucky, but
> the girl I spoke withhad an excellent knowledge of using the phonetic
> alphabet when she wasrepeating my email address back to me. After 20 minute
> phone call, she gotback on the line to tell me that the matter has been
> escalated to theirengineering department and that their engineering
> department is going toreach out to the installer who is here right now.
> When I told him that Iescalated the manner and that somebody would be
> contacting him, he seemedquite annoyed. I?ll keep everyone posted.*Best 7
> 3 de WA2SQQElmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are those wedon't
> ask"*On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 12:25?PM Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ
> <wa2sqq@gmail.com>wrote:>
> Already done>> *Best 73 de WA2SQQ*>>>> *Elmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb
> questions are those we don't ask"*>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 12:16?PM
> Stephanie WX3K <wx3k@yahoo.com> wrote:>>> Do baseline measurements of
> your band noise floors before they turn it on>>>>>> Stephanie WX3K>>>> > On
> Jun 5, 2024, at 10:11?AM, Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ <wa2sqq@gmail.com>>>
> wrote:>> >>> > ?So let?s assume Solar Edge is what they use. How has the
> feedback been>> on>> > noise?>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > *Best 73 de WA2SQQElmwood
> Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are those we>> > don't ask"*>> >>> >>> >>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 10:06?AM Michael Carter <Mike.Carter@unh.edu>>>
> wrote:>> >>>> >> Hi Bob,>> >>>> >> Unless your neighbor has opted to
> purchase>> >> and own the solar PV system, Sunrun is the>> >> owner and
> obligated to address any RFI>> >> issues associated wi
> th its installations.>> >> The Sunrun business model is leasing>> >> of
> the installed PV system at a fixed cost>> >> to the residence owner.>> >>>>
> >> I tried to research the brands of products>> >> used by Sunrun
> installers and found little>> >> information thus far.? Sunrun entered
> into>> >> a purchase agreement with SolarEdge for>> >> inverters several
> years ago, but I don't know>> >> if Sunrun is still using SolarEdge
> products.>> >> Readers of this list know all too well of>> >> RFI problems
> with SolarEdge's line of>> >> 'solar optimizers', which are DC-DC
> switch-mode>> >> power converters connected to each PV module.>> >>>> >>
> Paul, W9AC's advice to quickly get a baseline>> >> reading of RF background
> levels on all bands>> >> on which you operate is the best action you>> >>
> can take now.? I would also reach out to>> >> Steve, W1EMI at ARRL
> Laboratory who has>> >> interacted with SolarEdge and possibly Sunrun>> >>
> on RFI issues.>> >>>> >> 73,>> >> Mike, K8CN>> >> ---------------
> --------------->> >> *From:* RFI <rfi-bounces+mike.carter=
> unh.edu@contesting.com> on>> behalf of>> >> Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ <
> wa2sqq@gmail.com>>> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2024 9:25 AM>> >> *To:*
> rfi <rfi@contesting.com>>> >> *Subject:* [RFI] My biggest fear is
> happening>> >>>> >> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the
> University System.>> Do>> >> not click links or open attachments unless you
> recognize the sender and>> >> know the content is safe.>> >>>> >>>> >> Woke
> up this morning to discover a ?Sunrun? solar truck in my neighbors>> >>
> driveway. I?ve got a very good relation with my neighbor. I shared my>> >>
> concerns and she admitted she wasn?t aware of the potential problem.>>
> The>> >> installers said, it should not cause any problems. I?m going to
> speak>> with>> >> the installers later today. What are the known components
> (brands)>> that are>> >> known offenders?>> >>>> >> I?m going to try and
> remain optimistic, but I have a bad feeling.>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> *
> Best 73 de WA2SQQElmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are those we>>
> >> don't ask"*>> >> _______________________________________________>> >>
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> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 12:31:17 -0500
> From: Steve Muenich <srmuenich@gmail.com>
> To: Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ <wa2sqq@gmail.com>
> Cc: Stephanie WX3K <wx3k@yahoo.com>, rfi <rfi@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] My biggest fear is happening
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I?d be annoyed too with someone getting up in my business and getting the
> world all riled up before it?s even complete to see if there is even an
> issue.
> I?d suggest calming down, take a baseline and see what happens.
> Then deal with it then.
>
> Steve, NA5C
>
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> > On Jun 5, 2024, at 12:13?PM, Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ <wa2sqq@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?I sent an email to Steve Anderson, but I?m not sure if the ARRL email is
> > back up and running. I also left him a voice message. We decided to
> contact
> > solar wave on my own and after masquerading as an installer I actually
> got
> > someone to call me back. I may have got lucky, but the girl I spoke with
> > had an excellent knowledge of using the phonetic alphabet when she was
> > repeating my email address back to me. After 20 minute phone call, she
> got
> > back on the line to tell me that the matter has been escalated to their
> > engineering department and that their engineering department is going to
> > reach out to the installer who is here right now. When I told him that I
> > escalated the manner and that somebody would be contacting him, he seemed
> > quite annoyed. I?ll keep everyone posted.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Best 73 de WA2SQQElmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are those we
> > don't ask"*
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 12:25?PM Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ <wa2sqq@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Already done
> >>
> >> *Best 73 de WA2SQQ*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Elmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are those we don't ask"*
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 12:16?PM Stephanie WX3K <wx3k@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Do baseline measurements of your band noise floors before they turn it
> on
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Stephanie WX3K
> >>>
> >>>> On Jun 5, 2024, at 10:11?AM, Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ <wa2sqq@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ?So let?s assume Solar Edge is what they use. How has the feedback
> been
> >>> on
> >>>> noise?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> *Best 73 de WA2SQQElmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are those
> we
> >>>> don't ask"*
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 10:06?AM Michael Carter <Mike.Carter@unh.edu>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Bob,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Unless your neighbor has opted to purchase
> >>>>> and own the solar PV system, Sunrun is the
> >>>>> owner and obligated to address any RFI
> >>>>> issues associated with its installations.
> >>>>> The Sunrun business model is leasing
> >>>>> of the installed PV system at a fixed cost
> >>>>> to the residence owner.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I tried to research the brands of products
> >>>>> used by Sunrun installers and found little
> >>>>> information thus far. Sunrun entered into
> >>>>> a purchase agreement with SolarEdge for
> >>>>> inverters several years ago, but I don't know
> >>>>> if Sunrun is still using SolarEdge products.
> >>>>> Readers of this list know all too well of
> >>>>> RFI problems with SolarEdge's line of
> >>>>> 'solar optimizers', which are DC-DC switch-mode
> >>>>> power converters connected to each PV module.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Paul, W9AC's advice to quickly get a baseline
> >>>>> reading of RF background levels on all bands
> >>>>> on which you operate is the best action you
> >>>>> can take now. I would also reach out to
> >>>>> Steve, W1EMI at ARRL Laboratory who has
> >>>>> interacted with SolarEdge and possibly Sunrun
> >>>>> on RFI issues.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 73,
> >>>>> Mike, K8CN
> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>> *From:* RFI <rfi-bounces+mike.carter=unh.edu@contesting.com> on
> >>> behalf of
> >>>>> Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ <wa2sqq@gmail.com>
> >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2024 9:25 AM
> >>>>> *To:* rfi <rfi@contesting.com>
> >>>>> *Subject:* [RFI] My biggest fear is happening
> >>>>>
> >>>>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University System.
> >>> Do
> >>>>> not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender
> and
> >>>>> know the content is safe.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Woke up this morning to discover a ?Sunrun? solar truck in my
> neighbors
> >>>>> driveway. I?ve got a very good relation with my neighbor. I shared my
> >>>>> concerns and she admitted she wasn?t aware of the potential problem.
> >>> The
> >>>>> installers said, it should not cause any problems. I?m going to speak
> >>> with
> >>>>> the installers later today. What are the known components (brands)
> >>> that are
> >>>>> known offenders?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I?m going to try and remain optimistic, but I have a bad feeling.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Best 73 de WA2SQQElmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are those
> we
> >>>>> don't ask"*
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> RFI mailing list
> >>>>> RFI@contesting.com
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> >>>>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 15:50:07 -0400
> From: "Paul Christensen" <pchristensen@ieee.org>
> To: "'rfi'" <rfi@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [RFI] My biggest fear is happening
> Message-ID: <003e01dab781$9294a410$b7bdec30$@ieee.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> What you really mean is that you misrepresented yourself and lied about
> being an installer. Our hobby doesn't need to be known for fostering that
> kind of vendor relationship. Frankly, I hope those of us here are done
> assisting you.
>
> Paul, W9AC
>
> > On Jun 5, 2024, at 12:13?PM, Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ <wa2sqq@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?I sent an email to Steve Anderson, but I?m not sure if the ARRL email
> > is back up and running. I also left him a voice message. We decided to
> > contact solar wave on my own and after masquerading as an installer I
> > actually got someone to call me back. I may have got lucky, but the
> > girl I spoke with had an excellent knowledge of using the phonetic
> > alphabet when she was repeating my email address back to me. After 20
> > minute phone call, she got back on the line to tell me that the matter
> > has been escalated to their engineering department and that their
> > engineering department is going to reach out to the installer who is
> > here right now. When I told him that I escalated the manner and that
> > somebody would be contacting him, he seemed quite annoyed. I?ll keep
> everyone posted.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Best 73 de WA2SQQElmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are those
> > we don't ask"*
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 12:25?PM Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ
> >> <wa2sqq@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Already done
> >>
> >> *Best 73 de WA2SQQ*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Elmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are those we don't ask"*
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 12:16?PM Stephanie WX3K <wx3k@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Do baseline measurements of your band noise floors before they turn
> >>> it on
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Stephanie WX3K
> >>>
> >>>> On Jun 5, 2024, at 10:11?AM, Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ <wa2sqq@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ?So let?s assume Solar Edge is what they use. How has the feedback
> >>>> been
> >>> on
> >>>> noise?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> *Best 73 de WA2SQQElmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are
> >>>> those we don't ask"*
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 10:06?AM Michael Carter
> >>>>> <Mike.Carter@unh.edu>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Bob,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Unless your neighbor has opted to purchase and own the solar PV
> >>>>> system, Sunrun is the owner and obligated to address any RFI
> >>>>> issues associated with its installations.
> >>>>> The Sunrun business model is leasing of the installed PV system at
> >>>>> a fixed cost to the residence owner.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I tried to research the brands of products used by Sunrun
> >>>>> installers and found little information thus far. Sunrun entered
> >>>>> into a purchase agreement with SolarEdge for inverters several
> >>>>> years ago, but I don't know if Sunrun is still using SolarEdge
> >>>>> products.
> >>>>> Readers of this list know all too well of RFI problems with
> >>>>> SolarEdge's line of 'solar optimizers', which are DC-DC
> >>>>> switch-mode power converters connected to each PV module.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Paul, W9AC's advice to quickly get a baseline reading of RF
> >>>>> background levels on all bands on which you operate is the best
> >>>>> action you can take now. I would also reach out to Steve, W1EMI
> >>>>> at ARRL Laboratory who has interacted with SolarEdge and possibly
> >>>>> Sunrun on RFI issues.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 73,
> >>>>> Mike, K8CN
> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>> *From:* RFI <rfi-bounces+mike.carter=unh.edu@contesting.com> on
> >>> behalf of
> >>>>> Bob Kozlarek WA2SQQ <wa2sqq@gmail.com>
> >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2024 9:25 AM
> >>>>> *To:* rfi <rfi@contesting.com>
> >>>>> *Subject:* [RFI] My biggest fear is happening
> >>>>>
> >>>>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University System.
> >>> Do
> >>>>> not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the
> >>>>> sender and know the content is safe.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Woke up this morning to discover a ?Sunrun? solar truck in my
> >>>>> neighbors driveway. I?ve got a very good relation with my
> >>>>> neighbor. I shared my concerns and she admitted she wasn?t aware of
> the potential problem.
> >>> The
> >>>>> installers said, it should not cause any problems. I?m going to
> >>>>> speak
> >>> with
> >>>>> the installers later today. What are the known components (brands)
> >>> that are
> >>>>> known offenders?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I?m going to try and remain optimistic, but I have a bad feeling.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> *Best 73 de WA2SQQElmwood Park, NJ"The only dumb questions are
> >>>>> those we don't ask"*
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