Yes, I adopted the method you describe for the F2 exchange (their call at
the beginning and end of the report sent to them). But then I also include
their call in my confirmation message as well. It's not the most efficient
exchange (sending their call 3 times during a contact), but that's how I
worked the RTTY contest this time. I might change my mind. Or I might forget
this discussion entirely. I'm entering the middle stages of C.R.S. and when
the next contest rolls around I might have to be "paper trained" again!
Also...
There was a discussion regarding whether the exchange should be [State/Prov]
+ [CQ Zone] or the reverse. I didn't voice my opinion about this prior to
the contest, but I like to have the CQ Zone sent last. Here's my reasoning
about that... When I RX a station, my logging software automatically
populates the Zone field. The missing information is the State/Prov. I want
to see that information before Zone so I have a longer time to click (or
enter) it into the logger. About 98% of the time the Zone is guessed
correctly by the program and I don't have to do anything but visually verify
it's correct.
All of my examples are based on true "Polish logic" because I am 1/4 Polish.
Does that sound reasonable?
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Claude Du Berger" <duberger.miousse81@globetrotter.net>
To: "Robert Chudek - K0RC" <k0rc@pclink.com>; "RTTY" <rtty@contesting.com>
Cc: <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] CQWW exchange
Bob, while in RUN mode, because of the pile up I prefer to send
the call twice ex: K0RC 599 05 QC QC K0RC
This way I am sure only YOU will come back to me.
Since I already confirmed your call twice in the exchange...
is it really important to ReConfirm when QSL'ing
I was sending only TU VE2FK CQ
I am not to send the call a third time...
Where do you think it's more important to send it a
second time? in the exchange or the confirmation msg.?
73 Claude VE2FK
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Chudek - K0RC
To: RTTY
Cc: dezrat1242@yahoo.com ; Claude Du Berger
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] CQWW exchange
Whoa! This message got out of the gate before I was finished reading all
the
queued messages!
I see there is some debate about the {CALL} in the macro string I
suggested.
My thought is {CALL} is important not for the specific station you have
just
qso'ed, but rather everyone else in the pile up of calling stations.
Everyone sees you are confirming a contact with someone other than them!
If
I see "TU K0RF W6WRT CQ" after sending you my report, then I know Chuck
has
(once again) overpowered my signal and grabbed your discriminator instead
of
me!
Of course the down side of this is you slow down your rate a significant
percentage.
The Hyphen debate WAS settled and including it was the appropriate thing
to
do. You missed the memo. As Kok said, it reduces the TX string length by
14%. This isn't the only reason I use the hyphen. It also reduces by 14%
the
possibility a QRN or QRM will kill the SHIFT character. It's not there to
kill in the first place.
Here's another example from my practical standpoint... My car is parked in
the garage, face in. I put it in gear to leave. I move forward 14 inches.
Then I put it in reverse and back out of the garage. If my wife had parked
less than 14 inches from the wall in front, I'm going to have a "hit". My
first motion is useless and wasted activity.
Convince me otherwise. :-)
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Chudek - K0RC" <k0rc@pclink.com>
To: "Claude Du Berger" <duberger.miousse81@globetrotter.net>;
<dezrat1242@yahoo.com>; "RTTY" <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] CQWW exchange
Merci Claude!
You're absolutely right. The confirmation macro (usually F3) should start
with either TU or QSL and then whatever the operator deems "important".
{TX} TU {CALL} {MYCALL} CQ {RX}
That's all that is needed when using N1MM in running mode.
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Claude Du Berger" <duberger.miousse81@globetrotter.net>
To: <dezrat1242@yahoo.com>; "RTTY" <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] CQWW exchange
> It would be nice if the RUN station reply with the
> TU or QSL at the beginning of his confirmation, this way the S&P
> station could move faster... not waiting for the new way
> to reply giving the callsign twice...
>
> 73,
> Claude Du Berger VE2FK
> ve2fk@arrl.net
> http://www.contestgroupduquebec.com/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill, W6WRT
> To: RTTY
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] CQWW exchange
>
>
> I didn't notice this at all. To me, the confirmation is either QSL or
> TU, and I wait for one or the other on every QSO. During the recent
> contest I don't believe I had a single QSO without receiving one or
> the other. Are you (Roger) looking for something more than that?
>
> And I agree totally about the 599. Complete waste of time on RTTY. In
> a CW or phone contest it does have some value because it sets the
> rhythm and tone for the report which follows, but RTTY has no such
> need. I think it's just a carryover from other contests.
>
> 73, Bill W6WRT
>
>
> ------------ ORIGINAL MESSAGE ------------
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:55:47 +0000 (GMT), Roger Cooke
> <g3ldi@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >, it really was amazing how many stations did not stay around for
> confirmation
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