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Re: [RTTY] CQWW exchange

To: "RTTY Reflector" <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] CQWW exchange
From: "Robert Chudek - K0RC" <k0rc@pclink.com>
Reply-to: Robert Chudek - K0RC <k0rc@pclink.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:16:48 -0500
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Heh heh heh... Well I, for one, know that AA5AU will send LA 04 and W7AY 
will send OR 03 even before the contest begins! I don't need a SCP database 
to tell me this.

And BTW, it was a conscious decision why I chose the format of my signature. 
If you repeat something or see it often enough, it will stick in your 
memory.

All the SCP'ers using their database as the gospel were revealed when they 
logged me wrong last fall. I made a surprise entry from ND in the CW 
Sweepstakes contest. There were many who put more confidence in their 
database than the exchange I was sending.

Don't get me wrong, I do use the SCP to raise my confidence in what I am 
receiving on the screen. But I don't blindly accept what it suggests as an 
active contest callsign.

73 de Bob in MN


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kok Chen" <chen@mac.com>
To: "RTTY Reflector" <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] CQWW exchange


>
> On Sep 30, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Peter Laws wrote:
>
>> You're supposed to *copy the exchange* not *match the exchange in a
>> database*!
>
>
> I agree with Peter.
>
> While most people are willing to segregate contest classes by hardware
> crutches (SO2R, antennas, power, etc), other than the use of packet
> clusters, most people are opposed to classes which are based on
> software crutches such as contest loggers and databases.
>
> I know for certainty that some folks are blindly using databases
> because I have encountered this (more often that I would like to see):
>
> Me: W7AY W7AY
> He: W7AY 599 $%^#*#(
> Me: AGN?
> He: W7AY TU QRZ?
>
> So, how did he get my RST or state or zone exchange without my sending
> it?   Unless he was honest and logged my exchange as "AGN?", I believe
> that to be an invalid QSO.  Obviously, I coudn't log him, otherwise I
> wouldn't have sent the AGN? in the first place.
>
> I have also noticed that I get asked for more repeats at the start of
> the contest than I get in the middle of a contest when I work people
> again on a different band -- even when I had to repeat my callsign
> many times.  So, are some people using exchange information they (or
> the software) remembered, or are they actually copying it?  If it is
> what they remember, you can consider that to be operator skill, which
> is to be admired.  But if they'd instead used information the computer
> has remembered for them, then it is no longer operator skill at work.
>
> 73
> Chen, W7AY
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