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Re: [RTTY] ARRL attack on current RTTY users

To: Kok Chen <chen@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] ARRL attack on current RTTY users
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:49:09 -0500
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> They are getting away by claiming that the control operator of the
> link is that guy in his sailboat and therefore they are not operating
> under 97.221?

That is *absolutely* their (specious) claim.  The problem is that the
guy on his yacht can not possibly hear what other activity the RMS
server interfere with and can not possibly perform the duty of the
control operator to prevent that interference.

> I will include in my comments, that if the Commission decides to
> allow ARRLs bandwidth request (that 2.8 kHz nonsense), that the
> Commission needs to reaffirm that RMS servers are operating under
> rule 97.221(b), to keep the little guys protected.

The problem is that this is entirely about 2.8 KHz - not automatic
operation *or* the operations of the Winlink RMS network using *either*
PACTOR III/IV or WINMOR 1500 (all of which are not permitted by *any*
station under automatic control).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 11/24/2013 3:07 PM, Kok Chen wrote:

On Nov 23, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

However, operators of such systems claim they are not automatically
controlled (they are "controlled" by the interrogating station) and
thus not subject to 97.221 - including the bandwidth limitation.

They are getting away by claiming that the control operator of the link is that 
guy in his sailboat and therefore they are not operating under 97.221?

If you are right, then the protection of 97.221(b) is completely voided (i.e., 
that it is not automatic, since there is a control op).

I will include in my comments, that if the Commission decides to allow ARRLs 
bandwidth request (that 2.8 kHz nonsense), that the Commission needs to 
reaffirm that RMS servers are operating under rule 97.221(b), to keep the 
little guys protected.

Really, technically, to call that sailor a control op is stretching it.  I know 
that I have made RTTY transmissions and a Bzzzzt comes back at me -- so, by 
these guys claims, I am now the control op of that Bzzzzt signal?  Give me a 
break!

73
Chen, W7AY



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