What Ron said. I ran RTTY at W1AW/7 NV and I used a P3 to watch the pileup,
at peaks I had a solid wall of callers 5KHz plus wide. I only used "UP" and
never said how far. Tailending worked only if you were strong enough to
beat the other three stations trying the same thing. I'd say less than 5%
of contacts were tailends.
Usually I just used the P3 to try and spot someone that seemed to be in the
clear. That worked most of the time but often enough I'd tune them in and
BAM, some new caller would pounce right on them and I'd have to go looking
again.
When I started on a band almost everyone would be zero beat exactly 1KHz up
so I would try and pick up the stations a little bit higher. A few of those
and I could start to spread them out. Because I had the P3 I could stay
away from the smear in the middle and work the edges, which would tend to
part the smear in the middle and I could pounce on some of those in the
gap. If the pileup moved too high I'd move back to working the low edge to
bring everyone down again.
So I'd say your best bet is to not tailend and to look for a clear spot
some random non-integral distance up, stay away from 1, 2, 3, 4KHz up
because that's what everyone else is doing. Find a clear spot, get past the
edges.
Hope this helps - jeff wk6i
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Ron Kolarik <rkolarik@neb.rr.com> wrote:
> Dick I ran RTTY as W1AW/0 NE, one of many, and UP means just that at least
> to me. THe smart callers would go up to +2 or so and I could get them first
> pass. If I said UP 1, that's exactly what I got, everyone UP 1. UP 1-2
> worked
> a bit better but not everyone listened, cluster clickers. It got so bad at
> one point
> I added a macro that said "if you're calling here I'll never see
> you.....UP UP", I could
> see the on frequency callers and that usually worked.....usually. Best bet
> is pick a
> frequency and stay put, away from the larger pile. I would only work one
> tailender
> before moving to keep the pile spread out. 17m had the best rates for us
> later in
> the day 2100-2300utc. The results are up if anyone is interested, raw
> totals
> http://k0ha.com/w1aw/w1aw.htm
>
> 73,
> Ron K0IDT
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Kriss" <aa5vu@att.net>
> To: "RTTY Reflector" <rtty@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 11:50 AM
> Subject: [RTTY] Hardes RTTY Station to Work - EVER
>
>
>
> It Sat, 17-May at about 1515z and i have spent (wasted) three plus hours
> trying to work W1AW/0 (SD) on 18.105 RTTY. W1AW/0 (SD) has an excellent,
> easy to print signal but really seems deaf. I have tried every trick I know
> and he does not hear. His macros are perfect but i have no idea what he
> means by UP.
>
> - I have tried up 1, up 2, up3, up 4 and up 5 and nothing seems to work.
>
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