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Re: [RTTY] WHY put CQ at the end?

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] WHY put CQ at the end?
From: "Don Hill AA5AU" <aa5au@bellsouth.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:01:20 -0600
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I agree with Phil. I don't think having CQ at the end of your call is causing 
skimmers to think others are actually on your
frequency. 

I think having CQ at the end of your CQ message facilitates you being spotted 
by a skimmer but this is not exactly know even after
reading the RTTY Skimmer user manual located here:

http://www.dxatlas.com/RttySkimServ/Files/RttySkimServ.pdf

The "CQ synonyms" are described under the Contests.ini section. It does not 
specifically state whether or not CQ has to be at the
start or end of the message.

73, Don AA5AU

-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of pcooper
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:34 AM
To: RTTY@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] WHY put CQ at the end?

To Dave K6LL and the group,

Dave, I don't think the way you have your macro set is the reason the skimmers 
are seeing callers to YOU as spots.

As far as I can see, skimmers appear to be spotting pretty much anything, at 
any time.
My reason for saying this is based on what I was seeing in the K1N pile-ups.
During their time on RTTY, there were spots for loads of calls on that band, 
and none were using CQ in their calls at all.

I actually got spotted on 17m when I made a call to them, and I did not use a 
CQ, nor were there any CQ's on that frequency during
the (short) time I called them.

It is the reason I have given up using a skimmer site when contesting. It 
appears that all calls get spotted regardless of whether
they use a CQ in their macro or not.

And yes, I do use a CQ at the end of my macro, as it can be a right pain to sit 
and wait for the caller to call again and check that
he is calling CQ, if you happen to chance upon them and only get the call.

73 de Phil GU0SUP
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