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Re: [RTTY] WHY put CQ at the end?

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Subject: Re: [RTTY] WHY put CQ at the end?
From: "Larry" <lknain@nc.rr.com>
Reply-to: Larry <w6nws@arrl.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:49:18 -0500
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As with most things in ham radio there are people who hate things like skimmer spots and others that love them (I like them). I think most clusters offer a means to enable or disable skimmer spots.

73, Larry  W6NWS

-----Original Message----- From: David Levine
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 1:40 PM
To: Dave Hachadorian
Cc: reflector RTTY
Subject: Re: [RTTY] WHY put CQ at the end?

I operated this past weekend using VE7CC cluster and not a skimmer to feed
spots. I was set to spot any station I worked that wasn't already spotted,
I spotted a huge number of stations which means they weren't already
spotted by another operator. To give you the magnitude of how many, I alone
spotted 50 stations not in the cluster in the last 2 hrs 30 mins of the
contest, according to DXWatch. So I wouldn't agree with the statement that
S&P operators will arrive on a frequency knowing the station calling CQ.

Maybe different once everyone is using a skimmer cluster, but it's not
something I'm into yet.  But I'm a little guy and maybe I'm not
representative of the majority of operators working a contest. And I
disagree that ending with CQ is a hindrance whether in CW, phone or RTTY.

K2DSL - David


On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Dave Hachadorian <k6ll.dave@gmail.com>
wrote:

>My own personal preference is to know who's calling CQ

But CW contest have been going on for 87 years, and nobody puts CQ at the
end.  There is no confusion.

With RTTY skimmers now in the mainstream, and most RTTY contests allowing
Telnet assistance, most S&P operators are going to arrive on your frequency
already knowing who you are.  They want to hear your call sign, or even a
fragment of it, to confirm your identity.  They don’t need to hear CQ.
They already know someone is CQ’ing here.

The CQ at the end is now more of a hindrance than a help, at least for
those contests that allow Telnet assistance, which is the majority of RTTY
contests.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ




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