Dave,
Ref ur nr 3, you sent his call sign when you first called him. That is when you
began the QSO.
Stan, K4SBZ
"Real radio bounces off the sky."
> On Feb 18, 2016, at 5:28 PM, Dave Barr <recordupe@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> 1. If runners only want to send a call once, by all means do it at the end
> where is less likely to be garbled by software that misses the first one or
> two characters.
>
> 2. Like Don, I send the serial number 2 times if running, and 3 times if
> S&P-ing. Unlike Don, I rarely run, since I am running QRP at 5 or sometimes
> 1 watt.
>
> 3. I usually send the running station's call at the head of the exchange,
> but never mine at the end. I could be talked out of sending the running
> station's call if anyone will confirm that a legal (FCC & contest rules) qso
> occurs without both call signs being sent at least once.
>
> 4. When my call seems to have been sent incorrectly by the running station,
> I have started to repeat my call 3 times with no exchange since too many
> times in the past when my repeated call has been sent with the exchange, the
> confirm shows that the corrected call has been ignored.
>
> 5. I realize that I may be bringing on some of these situations by running
> qrp, and I'd appreciate comments on that idea.
>
> 6. Fear of re-raising the SO2R controversy not withstanding, it is really
> irksome and time consuming (for me) when a 20 over nine SO2R that I need for
> a mult is auto-repeat cq-ing with a 2 or 3 sec pause and is obviously just
> holding onto his QRG while he works someone on another band, and takes about
> ten cycles to answer me. It's not like I am not copyable, since in those
> cases I send my exchange only once, to see how well he does print me.
>
> 7. Several multi- stations seemed to be ignoring the requirement for
> separate serial sequences for each band, as shown by the non-consecutive
> serial numbers sent in successive qsos.
>
> Great contest, interesting conditions. Can't wait for the next one.
>
> Dave, K2YG
>
>
>
>> On 2/17/2016 6:33 PM, rtty-request@contesting.com wrote:
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:29:34 -0600
>> From: "Don Hill AA5AU"<aa5au@bellsouth.net>
>> To:<rtty@contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] RTTY Contest Operating
>> Message-ID: <009501d169db$105b2ca0$311185e0$@net>
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>>
>> I just have a couple comments here.
>>
>> First on #2 in regards to seeing your callsign at the end of the RUN
>> exchange such as:
>>
>> AD4TJ 599 001 001 AD4TJ
>>
>> As Ed mentioned, and I do the same, if I believe it is necessary to put the
>> call at the end, I will. Normally I don't, but at times I will. In last
>> weekend's WPX RTTY contest, I saw at least two RUN stations send me a report
>> like this:
>>
>> 599 034 034 AA5AU
>>
>> I thought it was pretty clever actually. It fulfills what David sees as
>> being necessary in his #2 comment. It kind of reminded me of the first time
>> I saw someone put CQ at the end of their CQ message. I don't know if I'm
>> going to change my RUN exchange message to this but I did find it
>> interesting. I like seeing my call at the start of the message because it
>> tells me right away the report is for me. Then again, I'm not so sure that
>> is necessary.
>>
>> On David's point #3, I send the serial number twice in my RUN exchange
>> message and 3 times in my S&P exchange message:
>>
>> RUN: AD4TJ 599 001 001
>>
>> S&P: 599 001 001 001
>>
>> In the S&P message, there is no need to send the RUN station's callsign. And
>> notice that the S&P report is actually shorter than the RUN report.
>>
>> 73, Don AA5AU
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Tanks via
>> RTTY
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:29 PM
>> To: RTTY Reflector
>> Subject: [RTTY] RTTY Contest Operating
>>
>> Hello all. I have a couple of pet peeves to voice:
>> 1. Some operators do not send the RST report that is required of some, not
>> all, contests. I work them anyway, even though they are clearly breaking the
>> rules to save milliseconds off of each contact
>>
>>
>> The 2016 CQ World-Wide WPX RTTY Contest
>> February 13-14, 2016
>> " IV. CONTEST EXCHANGE: RST report plus a progressive contact serial number
>> starting with 001 for the first contact. Note: Multi-Two and Multi-Unlimited
>> entrants use separate serial number sequences on each band. ".
>> 2. Sometimes, there is an extended time period from when I send my call to a
>> running station to the time that he sends my call with the report; before he
>> starts sending the report, I have figured he hasn't heard me and send my
>> call again. When the software finishes, I hear the running station sending a
>> report; however, they have not set up their exchange to send the caller's
>> call at the end of it, so all I see on my screen is " 599 123 123 " . Now,
>> is he replying to me, or has someone snuck in there with me? Who knows? All
>> I can do is stand by until the running station again sends the exchange,
>> with the calling station's call displayed at the beginning. It seems a waste
>> of time to not include the calling stations's call at the end of the
>> exchange. 3. With excellent band conditions and signal strengths, an
>> exchange of " AD4TJ 599 123 " may be sufficient. However, how many timjes
>> does that happen? If just a little something interferes, then the serial
>> number only being sent
on
>> ce is not enough. And, at that, sometimes they don't even send my call,
>> just 599 123. Are they answering me, or someone else?
>>
>> I would appreciate hearing from the experienced RTTY contestors on what they
>> think is proper, concerning these items.
>> 73, David AD4TJ
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