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Subject: [TenTec] More on rig tests, choice etc
From: RMcGraw@Blomand.Net (Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX)
Date: Sun Mar 9 13:59:08 2003
Sitting side by side here on the desk, the Omni V receiver sounds better
than the Omni VI+.  However, the Omni VI+ receiver is better than the Omni V
receiver.  Guess it is just what your taste demands.  Actually my Paragon
sounds better on receive than either of them.

73
Bob, K4TAX

----- Original Message -----
From: <tlogan7@cox.net>
To: "tentec reflector" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 10:33 AM
Subject: [TenTec] More on rig tests, choice etc


> Hi all -
>   After literally going through a spasm of entire shack equipment/rig
> turnover in the last few months I heartily agree with John's comments. For
> the record, after my "shack pverhall spasm" the shack now consists of an
> Omni VI+, Corsair II (back after a temporary trade to Ten Tec on the
Argo),
> K2/100,  OHR500 and Palstar R30. In and out of the shack was an Argo V and
I
> let go a very fine Icom 756 ProII.
>   One thing that surprised me is that, real or imagined, my Omni VI+ seems
> much better than I remember my Omni V. On the other hand, one of the list
> members went from an Omni VI+ to an Omni V in the last two months and
likes
> the V more. We speculated that perhaps even identical rigs may have their
> own characteristics - just like a two identical keys will feel different.
>   Another thing that surprised me was to see myself let the ProII go. I
was
> totally enamored with the ProII and very justifiably so. It is an amazing
> rig. However, when I fired up that Omni VI+ - well it just fit me like a
> glove and the Pro had to go to help pay for the VI and the Corsair. On
paper
> the Pro is better than the VI+. In my shack the VI+ is (for me that is) is
> 20 times more fun - even without an Icom style bandscope!
>   My rig shuffling spasm is over, but it certainly proved to me that
nothing
> replaces that on the air test that allows us to each subjectively decide
> what out favorite "operating feel" is.
> 73/Tim NZ7C
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Rippey" <w3uls@3n.net>
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 6:06 AM
> Subject: [TenTec] More IP3 Stuff
>
>
> > Given the variables involved in lab data results and their
interpretation,
> > as discussed in this thread, there seems to be no substitute for in-home
> > evaluations of transceiver performance by each ham as the final arbiter.
> >
> > This is no panacea, though, because it's an expensive, time-consuming
> > process to obtain, evaluate, compare, resell and then ship out
individual
> rigs.
> >
> > As an additional complication, most of today's transceivers are designed
> to
> > be pretty much all things to all people--to provide all kinds of modes,
> > options, etc., at a certain price point. Each transceiver therefore
> > consists of many complex compromises--determined by a host of
> > design/production decisions, with an end result that can be a
> > mish-mash--perhaps very appealing to some while leaving others
> unimpressed.
> > (As one example, the IC-756 PROII's "dual watch" feature is not the same
> as
> > Yaesu's separate receivers in the 1000 series because, as I understand
it,
> > in producing the 756 PRO is basically a military transceiver converted
to
> > amateur use and the original military specs did not call for dual
> receivers.)
> >
> > Furthermore, as perhaps in the case of an FT-920 I owned, the rig
obtained
> > may not meet factory specs, unbeknownst to the purchaser. In other
words,
> > the ham could be attributing certain faults to a model generically when
in
> > fact the specific rig under evaluation is defective. This means,
ideally,
> > that two or three samples of each model (ugh!) should be evaluated
before
> > reaching a conclusion.
> >
> > In spite of the valiant ongoing efforts of the ARRL, and to a lesser
> extent
> > CQ Magazine, the reports they provide can only be a first cut in the
> > evaluation process. (If you don't have a good curve ball, you won't be
> > invited to spring training.) Ultimately, each ham's selection of his/her

> > "ideal" transceiver has to be up to him/her, acting alone. And it's a
> > complicated, lengthy process. No wonder so many hams either hang on to
> > their tried-and-true transceivers from the 80's or, if buying a new rig,
> > fall back on brand loyalty as their selection criterion. Being loyal to
a
> > brand does greatly simplify life. And the good news is that most (all?)
of
> > the rigs today are pretty good all-round performers so it's not as if
you
> > end up with a poor performer no matter what rig is chosen and by what
> > selection process.
> >
> > The foregoing makes me wonder how many hams who are not now Ten-Tec
owners
> > will be motivated to explore on their own the Orion when it becomes
> > available--meaning not just reading up on it but actually buying one?
> >
> > 73,
> > John, W3ULS
> >
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