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Re: [TenTec] wither CW?

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
From: John Graves <jh.graves@verizon.net>
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Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 21:40:30 -0400
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Not to be combative but.....

why is different than someone using cw skimmer along with an automated 
contest program so the only code involved 99% of the time is which 
function key needs to pushed.  I will admit that a very high percentage 
of contesters can copy the code and are utilizing technology to increase 
the score.  If you allow one then why not the other?  I don't believe 
that the rules require anyone to actually copy the code by hand.

John / WA1JG


Phil Chambley Sr. wrote:
> 
>  Possibly I didn't clarify my point to the extent necessary.  I have nothing 
> against the use of keyers, bugs (I use both) or even keyboards for sending.
> 
> 
> 
> But nowadays one can find a DX station's frequency on a cluster, have the 
> computer copy him and then press a button to send a canned transmission, and 
> do all this without being able to copy his own name at 5 wpm.  These are the 
> ones to which I referred, and I think there should be a scoring difference 
> for those, compared to folks who actually do know the code at whatever 
> level.
> 
> 
> 
> It bothers me to hear someone say he worked  a station on CW, when in fact 
> he can't copy or send at any speed.
> 
> 
> 
> Phil C. Sr.
> 
> k4dpk
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "N4PY2" <n4py2@earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
> 
> 
>> Nobody that is at all serious about contesting uses a straight key.  I 
>> know
>> many contesters, many who are highly skilled at CW.  They all use keyers
>> with memories to send their CQ's and copy in their heads to get the QSO's.
>> All these people can easily copy CW at 40+ wpm in their heads.  The keyers
>> are just a mechanism to send the CW with.  It is almost impossible to send
>> CW at 20 wpm or higher with a straight key.  They do not use code readers.
>> Code readers are useless during typical QRM during a contest.
>>
>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>> 121 Little Bell Drive
>> Hays, NC 28635
>> www.n4py.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Richards" <jruing@ameritech.net>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
>>
>>
>>> I don't want to hijack the thread or cause a flame war,  but I agree
>>> with the notion there should be more points awarded to contesters
>>> (contestants?) who actually pound out the code with their fist, and who
>>> do not use electronic keyers to generate transmitted code.  I thank we
>>> should reward the operator for HIS skill, not that of his computer.  I
>>> know this would slow the pace, and reduce the number of contacts,  but
>>> it would be the operator, and not his computer at work.   If contests,
>>> like field day, are to simulate high pressure, need to operate NOW,
>>> scenarios, then  he would need to have his own ability to pound the
>>> brass, as a computer may not be available. I don't use a voice keyer on
>>> SSB contests for the same reason.  If I can't talk for 24 hours, and the
>>> other guy can, he deserves to win.
>>>
>>> And, parenthetically, I'm finding this code thing terribly difficult  to
>>> learn!
>>> But I will get there, eventually...
>>>
>>>
>>> Just my take....
>>>
>>> Happy trails.
>>>
>>> ====================  Richards - K8JHR ====================
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/24/2010 4:56 PM, Jim Brown K9YC wrote:
>>>
>>>> Virtually ALL serious contesters use computers to SEND CW,
>>>> but the vast majority I know of use the computer between
>>>> his/her ears to COPY it.
>>>>
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John Graves
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