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Re: [TenTec] The memory keyer in my Orion still cuts off the first dash

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] The memory keyer in my Orion still cuts off the first dash of the K at the front of my call. I've tried several suggestions but none work. I'm running the 3.0X software. Any other thoughts?
From: Haney Howell <haney.howell@gmail.com>
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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 18:47:46 -0400
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I did the reset several times before audio returned.  Same problem.  Chops
off first dash.  Back to the trusty external keyer.


On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX <RMcGraw@blomand.net>wrote:

> Perhaps Carl is correct in that a Master Reset should be done.  I agree,
> the dropping of the first element should not take place.   At present it
> does not occur on the three current production Tentec radios on my desk.
>
> Another clue regarding a suggested Master Reset is the version of firmware
> being used.  I would presume it was downloaded and installed and a Master
> Reset was not done.  Although not specifically required, I've found the
> when changing firmware versions, I prefer to err on the side of "just do a
> Master Reset" and start from scratch.
>
> As you likely know I do a lot of beta testing thus I'm frequently loading
> and reloading different versions of firmware.  Thus I'm going back to
> earlier versions and then to the version under evaluation for several
> instances.  In doing this, I find it very prudent to always implement a
> Master Reset.  It gives me a much clearer picture of what I'm experiencing.
>
> I view this as no different than our computers when we perform a suggested
> or recommended upgrade.  We often see the message appear,  "It is necessary
> to restart the computer for the changes to take effect".
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> DISCLOSURE:
> This is to inform all persons, I am a Tentec Ambassador and I receive
> compensation according to the Tentec Ambassador program.  In addition, I
> serve as a volunteer beta test person to Tentec for the Omni VII, Eagle
> and Argonaut VI radios.  I hold no employment relationship, no financial
> interests nor do I conduct any commercial business, direct or indirect,
> with Tentec.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Brown" <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com
> >
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 2:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] The memory keyer in my Orion still cuts off the
> first dash of the K at the front of my call. I've tried several suggestions
> but none work. I'm running the 3.0X software. Any other thoughts?
>
>
>
>  On 9/21/2013 12:09 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
>>
>>> I have had to add some characters in front of a data string to allow one
>>> of the radios for another application to key up and start transmitting.
>>>
>>> Now that being the case, as your configuration drops the first dash of
>>> your call, why not add a "T" in front of your call.  It would then drop the
>>> "T" and send your call.
>>>
>>> TK2XN.   If the "T" is missing then K2XN would be legally transmitted.
>>>
>>
>> There's a far better cure, and which Ten Tec has used since the Omni A.
>> The cure is to activate  the PTT relay 8-10 msec before sending RF. In
>> other words, delay RF by 8-10 msec. As I recall, that pre-TX keying signal
>> is called the "T-line" in that older gear. In some newer Ten Tec gear you
>> have to go in and find it, then bring it out to the rear panel. I think I
>> had to do that in my Omni V.  The delay is built into many other rigs, like
>> the TS-850, FT-1000-series, K2, and K3. In the FT1000-series and the K3,
>> the delay is adjustable via a menu. In the 850 and K2, it's fixed at
>> something like 8-10 msec. I've successfully used an 850, MP, and K3 to key
>> my Titan, Herc II, and Herc I (long ago sold). And it's even fast enough to
>> follow QSK up to about 25 wpm. At faster speeds the CW elements get too
>> short.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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Haney Howell
Rock Hill, SC
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