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Re: [TenTec] Ground Loops in the Station

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ground Loops in the Station
From: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 19:29:01 -0600
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The only "ground loop" I've ever experienced occurred with a Piper Tri-Pacer during a severe cross wind landing. It is not a question of "will you ground loop one, but it is a matter of time when you will ground loop one". Minor damage to the craft, other damage reported was to the pilots pants.

73
Bob, K4TAX


----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Brown" <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ground Loops in the Station


On 12/9/2013 1:11 PM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:
I have read lots of stuff on grounds and it appears to me that there is
nothing than anyone says or writes that isn't contradicted by someone else,
elsewhere.

Bill Whitlock, Chair of the AES Standards Committee Working Group on EMC (I am the vice-chair) laid it out quite well. You can study the extensive tutorial material on his Jensen Transformers website. I've adapted his analysis and models to what happens in the ham shack. You can see it in the Power Point pdf on my website under the topic of Interfacing.

k9yc.com/publish.htm

The mechanism that puts AC buzz in our audio is power system leakage currents. It has NOTHING to do with a "loop." Those leakage currents flow on the green (ground) wire, and the resulting IR drop causes every chassis to be at a somewhat different potential, and that potential consists of the triplen harmonics of the power frequency. The difference between those two ends of an unbalanced connection is simply added to the signal. The interfacing tutorial shows this, and shows simple, inexpensive solutions.

73, Jim K9YC
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