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Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 143, Issue 43

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 143, Issue 43
From: John Mendenhall via TenTec <tentec@contesting.com>
Reply-to: John Mendenhall <wa9dgm@aol.com>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 10:00:26 -0800
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Open up and do a visual inspection. Try different ant port. Put 50 ohm dummy 
load on antenna ports and ant analyzer on input and check. 73 john

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>   1. Selling my Ten Tec RX320 $240 includes USA postage. (Katz Ajamas)
>   2. Re: Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter - (Richards)
>   3. Re: Selling my Ten Tec RX320 $240 includes USA postage. (Richards)
>   4. Re: Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter -
>      (Carl Moreschi)
>   5. 238 Tuner Died (john brown)
>   6. Re: Used Orion 565 Prices (RDStraw)
>   7. Re: Used Orion 565 Prices (RDStraw)
>   8. Re: Used Orion 565 Prices (RDStraw)
>   9. Re: 238 Tuner Died (Stuart Rohre)
>  10. Re: Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter -
>      (Ron Notarius W3WN)
>  11. Re: Used Orion 565 Prices (Toby Pennington)
>  12. Re: Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter - (Richards)
>  13. Re: Used Orion 565 Prices (Richards)
>  14. Re: Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter - (Richards)
>  15. Re: Used Orion 565 Prices (Barry N1EU)
>  16. Re: Used Orion 565 Prices (Richards)
>  17. Re: Used Orion 565 Prices (Al Gulseth)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:22:28 -0500
> From: Katz Ajamas <ajamas.rn@gmail.com>
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] Selling my Ten Tec RX320 $240 includes USA postage.
> Message-ID:
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> Works fine. Not modified. :Looks good. Radio, wall wart, and telescopic
> antenna only.
> 
> Manuals and control software at Ten Tec web site.
> Sparkfun Electronics had a nice USB to RS232 adapter.
> 
> If unfamiliar, the RX320 is a complete receiver that does not have a
> control panel. It is controlled by way of commands sent serially.
> 
> 73,
> -Bob
> AH7I
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:12:51 -0500
> From: Richards <jrichards@k8jhr.com>
> To: Clayton Brantley <clayton_n4ev@yahoo.com>,    Discussion of Ten-Tec
>    Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter -
> Message-ID: <54764253.5020209@k8jhr.com>
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> 
> Thanks, guys... a friend of mine says he is sour on TT gear because they 
> abandoned the Pegasus and the Jupiter has a different command set, but I 
> think he is mistaken - Carl hits the nail on the head, as usual, with 
> the fact some front panel commands are more limited -- shoot, the Omni 
> VII is "supposed" to be similarly limited in front panel "radio mode" - 
> but I am darned if I have ever found one that Carl cannot control with 
> the Pegasus Plus program.  If there is one, I have never needed it.  But 
> TT says the "radio mode" does not provide commands for every command or 
> menu setting, so I get all that.
> 
> I am curious, Carl,... just what Omni VII controls are NOT available in 
> "radio mode?"
> 
> ---------------------- K8JHr  -----------------------------------
> 
>> On 11/25/2014 7:49 PM, Clayton Brantley via TenTec wrote:
>> To put into simple terms, a Jupiter is a Pegasus with knobs. They do use the 
>> same command set and asa matter of fact,
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:20:28 -0500
> From: Richards <jrichards@k8jhr.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Selling my Ten Tec RX320 $240 includes USA
>    postage.
> Message-ID: <5476441C.1050601@k8jhr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
> Parenthetically, those little receivers make a swell second receiver if 
> you use N4PY software.  You use the band scope window with the RX320 and 
> click on the "blips" to tune tune both rigs simultaneously - like a 
> panadapter, but I find it is easier to tune using the N4PY band scope 
> than some of the official panadapter programs NaP3 or the like - they 
> jump around a lot, and the other is stable and static.
> 
> Just my take...
> 
> ----------------------------  K8JHR ------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/26/2014 12:22 PM, Katz Ajamas wrote:
>> If unfamiliar, the RX320 is a complete receiver that does not have a
>> control panel. It is controlled by way of commands sent serially.
> =----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:20:49 -0500
> From: Carl Moreschi <n4py3@earthlink.net>
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter -
> Message-ID: <54764431.3010506@earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> You can't set the transmit power level, you can't change to accessory 
> input for digital modes, and you can't put the radio in transmit mode 
> from software.  There may be more but just looking at my program setup 
> for Omni VII front panel mode, that's what I see is missing.
> 
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 58 Hogwood Rd
> Louisburg, NC 27549
> www.n4py.com
> 
>> On 11/26/2014 4:12 PM, Richards wrote:
>> Thanks, guys... a friend of mine says he is sour on TT gear because they
>> abandoned the Pegasus and the Jupiter has a different command set, but I
>> think he is mistaken - Carl hits the nail on the head, as usual, with
>> the fact some front panel commands are more limited -- shoot, the Omni
>> VII is "supposed" to be similarly limited in front panel "radio mode" -
>> but I am darned if I have ever found one that Carl cannot control with
>> the Pegasus Plus program. If there is one, I have never needed it. But
>> TT says the "radio mode" does not provide commands for every command or
>> menu setting, so I get all that.
>> 
>> I am curious, Carl,... just what Omni VII controls are NOT available in
>> "radio mode?"
>> 
>> ---------------------- K8JHr -----------------------------------
>> 
>>> On 11/25/2014 7:49 PM, Clayton Brantley via TenTec wrote:
>>> To put into simple terms, a Jupiter is a Pegasus with knobs. They do
>>> use the same command set and asa matter of fact,
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:32:01 -0500
> From: john brown <n2ydf@hotmail.com>
> To: "tentec@contesting.com" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Cc: n2ydf@hotmail.com
> Subject: [TenTec] 238 Tuner Died
> Message-ID: <BLU403-EAS18675CF6ABB4E630BBEDD37E8700@phx.gbl>
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> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad     Hi everyone, and thanks for your assistance in advance. 
> Tuner has been working perfectly. Winter snow storm showed up, (Buffalo NY 
> area) Tuner will not tune at all. Very limited change in swr anywhere 10 
> -160. Also very limited change any where, using Capacitor tuning, Hi Z or Lo 
> Z positions or any setting on the Inductor. It almost acts like the positions 
> are bypassed. Antenna is a 160 meter loop  525ft with a 4 to 1 Balun. It has 
> been performing well for a year or more. If I eliminate the 238 Tuner and use 
> my Orion II, Ft 1000, or Ts-2000 they will all tune the loop alone,or with my 
> ldg at 600 tuner. However the 238 has always allowed me to tune the antenna 
> flat. Looking for ideas on what might have happened or broke. Thanks again 
> for any help. I mainly read the list,and really enjoy the information 
> everyone shares. I have found answers here before and hope to find more in 
> the future.  73 John, N2YDF, Freedom N.Y.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:04:47 -0800
> From: "RDStraw" <RDStraw@comcast.net>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
> Message-ID: <001a01d009c4$fe3ff9f0$fabfedd0$@comcast.net>
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> 
> Thanks, Barry.
> 73, Dean, N6BV
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry
>> N1EU
>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:43 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
>> 
>> I'd say $1800
>> 
>> 73, Barry N1EU
>> 
>>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:33 PM, RDStraw <RDStraw@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is the going price for an original Orion 565 in excellent
>>> condition, with optional built-in antenna tuner, cooling fan, and 600
>>> Hz roofing crystal filter?
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Dean, N6BV
>>> RDStraw@comcast.net
>>> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:05:28 -0800
> From: "RDStraw" <RDStraw@comcast.net>
> To: <ac5aa@ac5aa.com>,    "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'"
>    <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
> Message-ID: <001b01d009c5$1747e7a0$45d7b6e0$@comcast.net>
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> Thanks, Duane.
> 73, Dean, N6BV
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Duane
>> Calvin
>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 4:24 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
>> 
>> Mine sold for either $1600 or $1650, and I paid shipping.  FWIW.
>> 
>>    73, Duane
>> 
>> Duane Calvin, AC5AA
>> Austin, Texas
>> www.ac5aa.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry
>> N1EU
>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 5:43 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
>> 
>> I'd say $1800
>> 
>> 73, Barry N1EU
>> 
>>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:33 PM, RDStraw <RDStraw@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is the going price for an original Orion 565 in excellent
>>> condition, with optional built-in antenna tuner, cooling fan, and 600
>>> Hz roofing crystal filter?
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Dean, N6BV
>>> RDStraw@comcast.net
>>> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:07:14 -0800
> From: "RDStraw" <RDStraw@comcast.net>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
> Message-ID: <001c01d009c5$55c670a0$015351e0$@comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Thanks, Toby:
> 
> At N6RO, where I operate in multi-multis, we standardized on the K3. My
> Orion kind of stood out from the K3 crowd, and it worked very well, equal to
> the K3 in most things. 
> 
> But the Orion required some operator training/retraining to get things just
> right. That's why I'm getting ready to sell the Orion and get another K3. I
> hadn't used it for some time and when I just recently plugged it in I got an
> error message that the battery needed replacing. I think I'll list it for
> $1500, as is. Somebody else can replace the battery. I'll also throw in a
> 12V-40 ampere linear power supply too. No switching supply noise with that
> monster!
> 
> 73, Dean, N6BV
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Toby
>> Pennington
>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:33 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
>> 
>> More like $1500    Toby K4NH
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/22/2014 6:42 PM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>>> I'd say $1800
>>> 
>>> 73, Barry N1EU
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:33 PM, RDStraw <RDStraw@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> What is the going price for an original Orion 565 in excellent
>>>> condition, with optional built-in antenna tuner, cooling fan, and 600
>>>> Hz roofing crystal filter?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, Dean, N6BV
>>>> RDStraw@comcast.net
>>>> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 17:51:32 -0600
> From: Stuart Rohre <rohre@arlut.utexas.edu>
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 238 Tuner Died
> Message-ID: <54766784.1020605@arlut.utexas.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Very likely the Tuner was hooked up to the antennas and endured a build 
> up of wind or snow static charges, which took out the diodes that sense 
> SWR.  Check those for shorts or opens first.  Is the antenna(s) coated 
> in ice?  You sure the antennas are intact at the feedpoints?  (In high 
> winds, we often lose the club G5RV connection to one side or the other.)
> The weight of the cable choke ferrite is just too much for the flat top 
> in wind storms.
> 
> Good Luck, usually that is all that has happened unless you have some RF 
> amplifier for the SWR/ tuner logic circuits.
> 
> -Stuart Rohre
> Happy Thanksgiving to All!
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 22:37:12 -0500
> From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter -
> Message-ID: <783EDE5EE01D47279F08B48384BB312B@85LPJK1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> The Jupiter was developed as the "Pegasus FP" -- FP for Front Panel.
> 
> A Jupiter IS a Pegasus, but a Pegasus is NOT a Jupiter -- the Jupiter has an
> additional command set when not emulating the Pegasus.
> 
> The Pegasus/Jupiter has an interesting history, you can find out a lot with
> a little bit of searching the Internet.  Especially when you compare it to
> the Kachina 505 DSP rig, which sold new (at the time) for circa $2000 -- the
> Pegasus outperformed it (a point I know some will argue) for about half the
> cost, IIRC.
> 
> 73, ron w3wn
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Richards
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:16 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: [TenTec] Relationship between the Pegasus and Jupiter -
> 
> TT  Equipment Question:
> 
> What is the technical relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter - do 
> they use different command sets?  Are they the same rig, but one has a 
> set of front panel controls?  Is there a previously written explanation 
> of this I can read?
> 
> Thanks.
> ----------------------K8JHR -------------------------------
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 23:18:57 -0500
> From: Toby Pennington <w4cakk@centurylink.net>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
> Message-ID: <5476A631.9060003@centurylink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Good Luck with the sale.....should sell especially if there are any 
> roofing filters included.   Toby  K4NH
> 
> 
>> On 11/26/2014 5:07 PM, RDStraw wrote:
>> Thanks, Toby:
>> 
>> At N6RO, where I operate in multi-multis, we standardized on the K3. My
>> Orion kind of stood out from the K3 crowd, and it worked very well, equal to
>> the K3 in most things.
>> 
>> But the Orion required some operator training/retraining to get things just
>> right. That's why I'm getting ready to sell the Orion and get another K3. I
>> hadn't used it for some time and when I just recently plugged it in I got an
>> error message that the battery needed replacing. I think I'll list it for
>> $1500, as is. Somebody else can replace the battery. I'll also throw in a
>> 12V-40 ampere linear power supply too. No switching supply noise with that
>> monster!
>> 
>> 73, Dean, N6BV
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Toby
>>> Pennington
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:33 PM
>>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
>>> 
>>> More like $1500    Toby K4NH
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11/22/2014 6:42 PM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>>>> I'd say $1800
>>>> 
>>>> 73, Barry N1EU
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:33 PM, RDStraw <RDStraw@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> What is the going price for an original Orion 565 in excellent
>>>>> condition, with optional built-in antenna tuner, cooling fan, and 600
>>>>> Hz roofing crystal filter?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, Dean, N6BV
>>>>> RDStraw@comcast.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 03:02:02 -0500
> From: Richards <jrichards@k8jhr.com>
> To: n4py3@earthlink.net,    Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>    <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter -
> Message-ID: <5476DA7A.2050702@k8jhr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
> Just as I thought... the limitations are few and sufficiently obscure 
> that I don't miss them.
> 
> Thanks for the uptake.
> Happy trails and Happy Holidays, OM.
> 
> ------------------------------------K8JHR ---------------------------
> 
> 
>> On 11/26/2014 4:20 PM, Carl Moreschi wrote:
>> You can't set the transmit power level, you can't change to accessory 
>> input for digital modes, and you can't put the radio in transmit mode 
>> from software.  There may be more but just looking at my program setup 
>> for Omni VII front panel mode, that's what I see is missing.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 03:20:38 -0500
> From: Richards <jrichards@k8jhr.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
> Message-ID: <5476DED6.5090707@k8jhr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
> Interesting/  Last year, there was a hue and cry and a gnashing of teeth 
> TenTec's days were numbered because it discontinued the Orion II.   A 
> number of guys expressed dismay and regret they could not longer buy one 
> ... and, now prices have fallen substantially, no one wants one.   Kinda 
> hard to figure, but, then, it does not have to make sense.
> 
> The good news is TT is still in the hunt and writing the next chapter of 
> its history, while the Orion slips into history.  I will lose more on 
> this one item than all other ham gear I have sold put together.   Funny 
> how the market goes.
> 
> 
> Happy trails and  Have A Safe Holiday TenTec fans.
> Maybe Santa will bring you a new Eagle.
> 
> ---------------------------- K8JHR -------------------------------
> 
>> On 11/24/2014 7:54 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>> Yeah, I stand corrected - 565 price has eroded in the past few months.  I
>> observed this with the 566 dropping below
> 
> __________  ___________________________________
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 04:30:41 -0500
> From: Richards <jrichards@k8jhr.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter -
> Message-ID: <5476EF41.2090307@k8jhr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
> Thanks for the additional gloss, Ron.    I have read about and have seen 
> photos of the Kachina.   Considering the popularity of the Flex series, 
> it seems the Pegasus was the "Edsel"  of ham radio - a cool design,  
> just a bit ahead of its time in the marketplace !
> 
> Happy Holidays, y'all.
> 
> ---------------------- K8JHR  -------------------------
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/26/2014 10:37 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
>> A Jupiter IS a Pegasus, but a Pegasus is NOT a Jupiter -- the Jupiter has an
>> additional command set when not emulating the Pegasus.
>> 
>> The Pegasus/Jupiter has an interesting history, you can find out a lot with
>> a little bit of searching the Internet.  Especially when you compare it to
>> the Kachina 505
> 
> ________________________________________
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:23:37 +0000
> From: Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
> Message-ID:
>    <CAFmfzDv5W3z1KnfXz59tWocetEh5u55LrVM=G6Du7GykZoVXXw@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Richards <jrichards@k8jhr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I will lose more on this one item than all other ham gear I have sold put
>> together.   Funny how the market goes.
> Woith respect, my perspective couldn't be more different.  This one item
> has given me more enjoyment than any other item I've ever brought into the
> shack.  Who's selling what?
> 
> So my Orion has depreciated $1500-$2000 in the 11 years I've owned it.  I
> couldn't care less.  There's honestly no other rig right now at any price
> that I would swap it for.
> 
> 73, Barry N1EU
> 
> 
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> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 06:44:39 -0500
> From: Richards <jrichards@k8jhr.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
> Message-ID: <54770EA7.5020907@k8jhr.com>
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> No issue with your take, Barry.    It is a great radio.
> 
> I just remember all the hoopla and chatter about how terrible it was to 
> be discontinued, and how many said they were disappointed because they 
> wanted one, but now, less than a year later, none of them want one.
> 
> Surely that does not diminish their value in the hands of the skilled 
> operator !   ;-)
> 
> Happy days, Barry - always enjoy your stuff.
> 
> ================= JHR ===================
> 
>> On 11/27/2014 6:23 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>> Woith respect, my perspective couldn't be more different.
> 
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> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 07:44:40 -0600
> From: Al Gulseth <wb5jnc@centurytel.net>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
> Message-ID: <201411270744.40764.wb5jnc@centurytel.net>
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> 
> Just to put it in perspective: how much has automobile depreciation cost you 
> in the past decade? Or how much is a decade old computer item worth now?
> 
> Unless it's very rare or desirable, even a "collectable" (radio or otherwise) 
> usually isn't worth as much as it was new when scaled for inflation.
> 
> Just my $0.02 worth....
> 
> 73, Al
> 
>> On Thu November 27 2014 5:23:37 am Barry N1EU wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Richards <jrichards@k8jhr.com> wrote:
>>> I will lose more on this one item than all other ham gear I have sold
>>> put together.   Funny how the market goes.
>> 
>> Woith respect, my perspective couldn't be more different.  This one item
>> has given me more enjoyment than any other item I've ever brought into the
>> shack.  Who's selling what?
>> 
>> So my Orion has depreciated $1500-$2000 in the 11 years I've owned it.  I
>> couldn't care less.  There's honestly no other rig right now at any price
>> that I would swap it for.
>> 
>> 73, Barry N1EU
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