Re: [TenTec] solved - Orion II won't flash

[Phil Sussman <psussman@pactor.com>]

Old radio equipment -vs- older computers.

There is one truth. The lack of support for older software based units
is tied directly the ability to force sales of new equipment. Look at
the reality of using non-software based units (RL-Drake for example)
where units can be used for periods that dwarf software based products.

Remember: Most software is licensed. So, watch in the future for a date
where licensed software will just plain expire making a market for older
units that can be used only as boat anchors or paperweights.

Will the TEN-TEC of the future be any different?

Just my thoughts.

73 de Phil - N8PS



Quoting Jim Vohland <n9vo@hotmail.com>:

> All fine and dandy but at what point will radio manufacturers step  
> into future and make rigs that won't require keeping a 10 year old  
> computer around?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick@DJ0IP.de> wrote:
> >
> > Actually just about any brand new business laptop from Dell or  
> > Lenovo has a true serial port and you can always boot dos from a  
> > floppy.
> > 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> > (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tony
> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 3:39 PM
> > To: tentec@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] solved - Orion II won't flash
> >
> > That's why I still have an old one with W-95. Many older Motorola  
> > radios can not be programmed with modern computers.
> > They require true serial ports with slow processors and it becomes  
> > ‎becomes harder and harder to find old B&W LCD Laptops that run  
> > with true DOS.
> > 73, Tony VE3DWI.
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network.
> >  Original Message
> > From: Barry N1EU
> > Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 04:24
> > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > Reply To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] solved - Orion II won't flash
> >
> > It's not a USB port that I was using - it's a real serial port. I  
> > consider the case closed and glad I held on to my old computer ;-)
> > Barry N1EU
> >
> > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 1:52 AM, Kim Elmore  
> > > <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > If you broke out your old XP box, it was certainly a a different port!
> > > Had you already tried a different USB-RS232 interface? That would have
> > > been something similar, I suppose.
> > >
> > > Kim N5OP
> > >
> > > "People that make music together cannot be enemies, at least as long
> > > as the music lasts." -- Paul Hindemith
> > >
> > > > On Jan 4, 2015, at 13:57, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > To try a different computer/port.
> > > >
> > > > Barry N1EU
> > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Kim Elmore
> > > > > <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > I'm curious: what was his suggestion? I missed it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kim N5OP
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 1/4/2015 1:19 PM, Barry N1EU wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks to Rick VE7TK's suggestion, I dug up my ancient WinXP
> > > > > > computer
> > > and
> > > > > > cabled it up and it flashed the radio fine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 73, Barry N1EU
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> > > > > Kim Elmore, Ph.D. (Adj. Assoc. Prof., OU School of Meteorology,
> > > > > CCM, PP SEL/MEL/Glider, N5OP, 2nd Class Radiotelegraph, GROL)
> > > > >
> > > > > /"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.
> > > > > But, in practice, there is." //– Attributed to many people; it’s so
> > > > > true that it doesn’t matter who said it./
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