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Re: [TenTec] ALS 600, TT Orion and Omni 7

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] ALS 600, TT Orion and Omni 7
From: denton sprague <denton@oregontrail.net>
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Date: Sun, 24 May 2015 09:27:53 -0700
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did that…you are correct with the orion….
does not occur with the Omni 7 though….
for the present will just use the external ptt switch.

On May 24, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick@DJ0IP.de> wrote:

> Denton,
> 
> Turn your mic gain all the way down and try switching with the mic's ptt
> switch again.
> Check if it still goes to fault on 160m.
> I have a hunch that the noise of the switch is applying audio, thus RF power
> and that is triggering the fault.
> 
> Not sure how to fix it but if we can determine that is the cause, then at
> least we have a starting point and something to work with.
> 
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of denton
> sprague
> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 5:51 PM
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> Subject: Re: [TenTec] ALS 600, TT Orion and Omni 7
> 
> An update...went thru the usual when going from barefoot to an
> amp..connectors, coax check, chokes, grounding, etc.
> Got it relatively tamed.but I also notice that when using the mic switch on
> any mic will cause the agc light to come on when switching from transmit to
> receive.
> That will cause the amp to go into fault mode on 160.
> If I use an external ptt switch using the aux cable, this does not occur.
> I swapped out the Orion for my Omni 7 this am and this problem does not
> occur.
> Pin 1 problem? guess could call TT in a few days and see what they say.
> 
> On May 23, 2015, at 6:36 AM, denton sprague <denton@oregontrail.net> wrote:
> 
>> got the amp yesterday and its up and running.works fb.except for slight
> glitch on 160 meters..keeps wanting to go into fault mode if anything over
> 400 watts out to the antenna.
>> works fb on dummy load though.
>> antenna is short for 160 so that might be part of the problem.
>> Is there an interface cable to allow my Orion and/or Omni 7 to allow
> either rig to select the ale 600's bandpass filters?
>> I was informed not to interface alc cable between the rig and amp.any 
>> comments on this? thanks.
>> 
>> On May 20, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick@DJ0IP.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> With SSB, NONE.
>>> 
>>> With CW, well two potential problems.
>>> The relay in the ALS-600 is very slow - about 20ms on average - 
>>> despite Ameritron's claim of 15 ms.
>>> You need to add some time sequencing.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately the 15mS pre-dit delay is fixed and not adjustable, but 
>>> it goes a long ways in protecting the relay on the front end.
>>> 
>>> You also need to add a couple hundred ms of hang delay.  The OM7 has 
>>> a menu item where you can do this but by default it is turned off 
>>> (set to 0).  If my memory serves me right, I believe it adjusts in
> increments of 50ms.
>>> It's been 7 or 8 years since I have operated an OM7.
>>> 
>>> But as I said, with SSB it's not really an issue, especially when 
>>> running PTT.
>>> Even with vox it's not as bad as CW because the voice starts soft and 
>>> rises, so the initial blast of RF is at low power (unless you 
>>> sneeze!)
>>> 
>>> I had an ALS-600 for a few years and it is a very nice amp.
>>> If you are serious about CW, Phil Salas, AD5X has two different mods 
>>> to the relays.  You might want to try one or the other.
>>> 
>>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
>>> denton sprague
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 4:46 PM
>>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>>> Subject: [TenTec] ALS 600, TT Orion and Omni 7
>>> 
>>> Got a used Ameritron ALS 600 coming in the mail this friday. Anyone 
>>> have any problems running one with either an Orion or Omni 7?
>>> I plan on driving the amp with no more than 50 watts, primarily on 
>>> 160 and
>>> 80 meter ssb.
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