Had Rob Sherwood do some work on a r4c for me this spring. It took two months
of finding parts.hihi
But in that time had many conversations with him great man to talk to. Most of
the talk was about SDR who was going to repair the radio when it breaks? Hey
I’m up for a repair say on a Omni VI but probably not on a Omni VII or a Orion
that has cpu or other digital problems.
It’s going to be the factory repair ! That’s who hopefully has the parts.
Cost to repair will be a another thing , just like Ten Tec repair charges
have gone up. I can’t hardly take the the covers off and on in a hour let alone
repair the radio .hihi
Shipping charges : It cost $60.00 each way to send Rob the Drake. It’s a
medium sized radio, a larger radio would cost more . Still part of owning a
radio.
And one last thing 5 years from now how many radio brands will still be in ham
radio ? Icom has sold how many thousands of the 7300 and the price keeps
dropping $1009 with rebates. The 7610 is selling. What will the other brands
bring out to compete with Icom?what ever it is unless it’s as good or better
there sale will dive . There are the loyal brand people just like Chevy Ford
people . That will keep some brands going for awhile . I really think one of
two things will happen manufactures will make even better radios or they will
slowly drop out of Ham Radio because it’s all about the money.
One other thing that Rob Sherwood is full of information! Tried to talk him
in writing a book just his part of ham radio history! He though may through the
ARRL he could do it . Haven’t talked to him lately but I would be one of the
first to order the book . 73’s.
Byron
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> On Aug 8, 2018, at 11:17 AM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> EXCELLENT points Rick, agreed!
>
> 73, Barry N1EU
>
>> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 12:12 PM, <Rick@dj0ip.de> wrote:
>>
>> Bob, your email is a great lead into what Rob Sherwood has been preaching
>> for about 6 or 7 years now:
>> "Consider Cost-of-Ownership (COO) when buying a new radio."
>>
>> Potentially, every radio, regardless of cost, can become immediately
>> obsolete if for some reason one of its critical components suddenly goes
>> End-of-Life.
>>
>> That is why I personally have opted to never spend more than $2K for a new
>> radio, regardless of how good it is.
>> Before retirement, it was not such a big deal, but for most of us,
>> retirement means tighten the belt.
>>
>> It seems now the destiny for most radios is, keep it as long as possible,
>> then sell it broken for parts.
>>
>> With that in mind, about the only two radios that I would even look at
>> twice are the IC-7300 and TS-590S.
>>
>> I fear if Ten-Tec ever does bring out a radio, it will be above my $2K
>> limit.
>>
>> 73,
>> Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec <tentec-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
>> Sent: 08 August 2018 17:59
>> To: tentec@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion VFO Knobs
>>
>> In many cases, the original supplier of the parts has discontinued
>> specific items. The new ownership has little to nothing to do with this
>> fact. Some parts were custom made for Tentec while some were made in their
>> own tool and die shop or injection molding facility. Those of course no
>> longer exist. Unless someone builds after market items, many parts for
>> older radios {those 10 + years} simply won't be available.
>>
>> This also is the same for many other brands as well. I've encountered
>> this fact with my attempted repair of Kenwood, ICOM and Yaesu products and
>> is one of the reasons I've stopped repairing radios. No parts available in
>> many cases. In other instances, the supplier has a minimum of 100 piece
>> order. If I have to order 100 pieces just to get one or two, this makes
>> the repair very expensive. Certainly is not profitable for me.
>>
>> Folks, we must realize that anything older than the Omni VII {now 10+
>> years old}, Eagle {now 8+ years old} and Argonaut VI {now 6+ years old}
>> are, in many instances, in trouble with regard to parts. With my former
>> company, having been in charge of repair parts for products that are no
>> longer in production, we did forecast and purchase inventory to support
>> products for 7 years. In most cases the supplier or vendor informed us that
>> this was the last production run on these items. This is inventory that
>> takes space on the shelves, and must be paid for in advance. Hence we have
>> to spend dollars for parts that may set on the shelf for 7+ years. The
>> accountants do not like this and the facility manager may say "why do we
>> need to use this space for obsolete parts"?
>> And in many instances our "forecast" was not sufficiently accurate and we
>> simply ran out of parts before expected. In some cases we were forced to
>> limit purchase quantities to prevent hoarding.
>>
>> With Tentec and other brands, just be thankful you can get any service
>> work done and parts being available. Yea yea yea I know you're saying
>> your 30 year old radio still works and I can get it repaired. In general
>> that is correct.........until one of those unique parts fail. The Orion
>> series has several unique parts and many to most of the PC board assemblies
>> are no long available. If either fails, look for a "parts only radio"
>> and hope the part is good that you need.
>>
>> This is no different than looking for a brake controller for anti-lock
>> brakes from a junker at the auto junk yard. Oh, the Dealer has them for
>> $650. That's 1/2 the value of the vehicle. Radios are much the same
>> way.
>>
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>>> On 8/8/2018 10:18 AM, David J. Ross wrote:
>>> Sorry to hear that. I bought the parts for my Paragon just last Nov. I
>> had heard that service parts were drying up under the new ownership.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TenTec <tentec-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of km4bsham via
>>> TenTec
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 11:10 AM
>>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
>>> Cc: km4bsham <km4bsham@aol.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion VFO Knobs
>>>
>>> Naturally "out of stock, try back at a later date ". Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>> -------- Original message --------From: "David J. Ross" <
>> rossdj@verizon.net> Date: 8/7/18 6:32 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'Discussion of
>> Ten-Tec Equipment' <tentec@contesting.com> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion
>> VFO Knobs I purchased one directly from TenTec but there was a $25 minimum
>> order. I needed the plastic panel end ears so the ring was a price padder.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TenTec <tentec-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Dave Beghtel
>>> via TenTec
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 6:04 PM
>>> To: TenTec@contesting.com
>>> Cc: km4bsham@aol.com
>>> Subject: [TenTec] Orion VFO Knobs
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there any source for the newer vfo knobs with the solid rubber ring?
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