If you don't want me participating in your contest, require a serial number.
Wes N7WS
On Monday, December 8, 2025 at 05:03:11 PM MST, Hugh Valentine
<hsvdds@outlook.com> wrote:
If 99.9% of all signal reports sent are 599, what is that good for?A contest
QSO at minimum should contain a serial number to cross check Signal reports
are not genuine anymore and are as significant as teats on a boar hog. Replace
the abused and insignificant 599 with a serial number when a contest is
established.N4RJ
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<tree@kkn.net>
Sent: Monday, December 8, 2025 6:28:31 PM
To: Wes Stewart <n7ws@yahoo.com>
Cc: n0jk@hotmail.com <n0jk@hotmail.com>; topband@contesting.com
<topband@contesting.com>; n0tt1@juno.com <n0tt1@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: ARRL 160 comments There were indeed a couple of stations
not sending the RST. I won't name
them here.
I don't believe any of them were contenders, so more likely, they just
thought it was a good idea or didn't know. If I worked someone who only
gave me their section, I might send them a note after the contest letting
them know. We certainly don't want this to become widespread.
EXCEPT for the Stew Perry Topband Distance Challenge. Originally, RSTs
were optional and some people sent them and some didn't. We eventually
eliminated them as the grid square was hard enough to copy. Mark your
calendars for December 27th - December 28th. Starts at (let me see if I
can get this right) 1500Z and goes for 24 hours. Full rules and previous
results are here -
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73 Tree N6TR / K7RAT
On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 2:07 PM Wes Stewart via Topband <
topband@contesting.com> wrote:
> From the published rules:
> "Exchange: W/VE stations send a signal report and their ARRL/RAC Section.
> DX stations send a signalreport."
> Seems to me that anyone not sending a report isn't making any contacts.
> Wes N7WS
>
>
> On Monday, December 8, 2025 at 03:00:31 PM MST, n0tt1@juno.com <
> n0tt1@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >Another trend I noted was people not sending the 599. Several were just
> sending their section.
> The "599" is a place filler in the exchange, but not sending it seemed
> to slow things down."
>
> I noticed that too. Other OPs are expecting a certain sequence in the
> exchange
> and if that's disrupted then it may cause a problem. Especially if
> signal strength
> is marginal.
>
> Charlie, N0TT
>
> On Mon, 8 Dec 2025 15:36:26 +0000 jon jones <n0jk@hotmail.com> writes:
> > I missed K7RAT despite looking... I had put up a ¼ wave wire in tall
> > trees on our farm north of Lawrence. It worked really well. It came
> > down last week in the snow storm. So to hand out a few Qs used
> > the rain gutter on our home again.
> >
> > Despite a minimal antenna and my old TS-850 at 50 watts, worked many
> > people "S & P" including PJ2T and KP4AA. And Don, WD8DSB — thanks!
> >
> > Conditions seemed down Friday night with east coast stations weak
> > and unworkable. Better Saturday evening and worked many W2, W3s and
> > K1KI CT. Copied several W6 but no luck. N7EPD WWA strong but didn't
> > copy me. High K index didn't help.
> >
> > Tree has a point with the exchange issue and timing. Sending the
> > other station's call helps. Another trend I noted was people not
> > sending the 599. Several were just sending their section. The "599"
> > is a place filler in the exchange, but not sending it seemed to slow
> > things down.
> >
> >
> > *
> > Jon N0JK
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > >Conditions have not been so good - although I did manage some East
> > Coast
> > QSOs around midnight local time.
> >
> > One or two QSOs didn't make it into the log for a reason I would
> > like to
> > share. When the band is open to Europe for the East Coast, it is
> > common
> > for us West Coast people to end up on their frequency as it is
> > totally
> > clear on this end. If an East Coast station sends their call sign -
> > but
> > totally out of sync, we pretty much know what is happening.
> > However, if
> > the timing is good - then we can feel confident that they are
> > working us.
> >
> > However, when I am low power - it is hard for the East coast station
> > to
> > hear me - add in some QSB - and thus the timing might get messed up.
> > I had
> > this happen last night (calls changed to protect the guilty):
> >
> > CQ TEST K7RAT
> > K3ZO
> > K3ZO 5NN OR
> > <nothing>
> > K3ZO 5NN OR
> > <nothing>
> > K3ZO 5NN OR
> > <them sending the exchange but out of sync>
> > <K3ZO 5NN OR>
> > K3ZO 5NN MDC
> > <nothing>
> >
> > At no time during this am I feeling very confident that I am the one
> > being
> > worked. Instead of sending K3ZO again - which I already have -
> > sending
> > K7RAT once would really help me understand what is happening.
> >
> > Food for thought. Again - if the QSO is well timed, this isn't
> > necessary -
> > but if things are difficult due to QSB, sending the "other" guy's
> > call when
> > S&Ping really helps.
> >
> > Thanks for reading.
> >
> > Tree N6TR / K7RAT
> >
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