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[TowerTalk] Opinions on Tower permission issue....

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Subject: [TowerTalk] Opinions on Tower permission issue....
From: k2kv@reallybig.com (Jeff Singer)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:15:29 -0500
Uh,

Let's not get carried away Stan. Many folks get to put up towers and enjoy
them without all the dramatic hysteria!

I think the purpose of this thread is to HELP Gerry accomplish what he can
with respect to his current situation. Your completely negative post does
NOTHING to help this fellow, and only serves as a scare tactic (I don't
understand your motivation), fanning a fire we he will most likely never
have to put out.

With all due respect, running all over the map to escape from a problem
before it even exists is more than a little paranoid, especially in light of
the fact that hundreds of hams have successfully enjoyed their towers, at
their chosen homesteads, in almost every part of the country, myself
included. He is definitely NOT having a nightmare, as you put it. You have
turned his neighbor into an enemy, when, in fact, the neighbor may well turn
out to be a most valuable friend, when all is said and done.

Gerry is taking the right path to a successful outcome. He is not panicking,
nothing adverse has happened, and he has a great wealth of experienced
wisdom to call upon. Let's help him accomplish his goals.

73 de Jeff K2KV
k2kv@reallybig.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-towertalk@contesting.com
> [mailto:owner-towertalk@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Stan Griffiths
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 2:55 PM
> To: Gerry Hull; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Opinions on Tower permission issue....
>
>
>
> Hi Gerry,
>
> Sounds to me like you are having a nightmare.  There are a couple
> of possibilities you did not put
> on your list:
>
> 1.  Move to another town or out of the historic district of the
> town you are in.
>
> 2.  Take up stamp collecting instead . . .
>
> You may think these are not serious suggestions, but let me
> assure you, they are.
>
> I used to live in southern NH myself (Derry) and when my wife and
> I were shopping for a house to
> buy, the FIRST thing we did was ask the realator to check the
> town ordinances for restrictive tower
> ordinances.  If they found some, we did not want to look at ANY
> property in that town, and we did
> exactly that.
>
> It is a little late for you to do that now, but not if you would
> consider moving again.  This may
> well be the best way out for you, even now.
>
> Suppose you actually take legal action and win.  Do you think you
> can really live peacefully with
> your neighbor?  I seriously doubt it.  I really don't see how you
> can win here, even if you win
> legally.  The deck is stacked against you.
>
> It's not like I haven't been there before.  I have been a ham for
> 45 years, moved 15 times, and
> lived in the following cities:
>
> 1.   Lake Oswego, OR
> 2.   Santa Ana, CA
> 3.   Orange, CA
> 4.  Panorama City, CA
> 5.  Canoga Park, CA
> 6.  Sherwood, OR
> 7.  Merrimack, NH
> 8.  Derry, NH
> 9.  Aloha, OR (where I have lived for the last 25 years with
> three 100 foot towers)
>
> So I have lived on both coasts and in a lot of cities.  I had
> antennas in most of those locations,
> but not to the exent that I have now.  In Derry, for example, I
> only had two 100 foot towers.
>
> NOTHING TAKES THE PLACE OF PLANNING FOR THIS BEFORE YOU BUY YOUR
> HOUSE.   It sounds like in your
> case, they changed the ordinances AFTER you got there and there
> isn't much you can do about that.
> I put my towers up in 1973 and could NEVER put them up here today.
>
> If I were comtemplating building a station with a tower now, I
> would definitely have to move to
> another county or city.  In my opinion, you just have to sit down
> and have a very serious
> discussion with your wife and decide how important having a tower
> is in your lives.  It may just
> not be worth it . . .  You can always go back to guest operating.
>
> Stan  w7ni@teleport.com
>
> Gerry Hull wrote:
>
> > Hello fellow TowerTalkian's...
> >
> > After 20 years of guest-operating in contests, finally picked
> up 100' of Rohn 25
> > and am living on 5.5 acres in Southern NH. So... now I want to
> put up my tower,
> > and finally do some operating from home.
> >
> > I live in a very small town (pop. < 600), in the center of town
> in the "historic"
> > district.  Recently, our town passed a tower ordinance which
> prohibits towers of
> > any kind in the "historic" district.  A couple of years ago the
> New Hampshire house
> > ratified PRB-1, and therefore, as I understand it,  I CAN
> essentially put the tower up.
> >
> > About 1.5 acres of my 5.5 are woods.  Was planning to put 80 or
> 90 ft up in
> > the woods, with only the top 15-20 feet sticking out of the
> trees.  The tower would
> > fall no where near my house or neighbors.  I also have to
> please the XYL!
> >
> > Another fly in the ointment is that the head of the planning board is
> > my next door neighbor.
> >
> > So, here are the possibilities:
> >
> > 1> Put the tower up without contacting the town.  Let them come
> to me and complain.
> >    Present NH house stuff and other documents if they do.  I
> presume I'll need a lawyer
> >    if they give me a cease and desist order.  This plan scares the XYL.
> > 2> Prepare documents (PRB-1, NH House info, Rohn specs.) and
> present to the planning board. See
> >    what they say.  This plan scares me.
> >
> > Am I going to need a lawyer?  I'm not prepared for a $10,000
> legal battle.  Or, am I worried
> > over nothing?
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > -Gerry, W1VE/VE1RM
> >         ex: AK4L, VE1CER
> > Greenfield, NH
> >
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