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Re: [TowerTalk] Clean copper

To: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Clean copper
From: "Chris BONDE" <ve7hcb@rac.ca>
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:26:37 -0800
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The tinners' solution has (I believe been also called 'killed' acid)  The old 
timers 
would take a certain amount of the acid plus a sealing ring from a preserving 
jay, 
the total zinc ones.  The reaction finished slightly acidic and was used to 
clean 
things.

Chris opr VE7HCB

Date sent:              Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:36:44 -0800
To:                     k4oj@tampabay.rr.com, Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
From:                   Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Subject:                Re: [TowerTalk] electric fence qrn
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No solvents, really, since what you are looking at is
corrosion/oxidation (copper oxide is black or red, depending on the
form).

Various forms of "bright dip" are available... usually consisting of
some mixture of nitric and hydrochloric acid.

Flux for soldering essentially produces the same effect, with a heat
activated chemical reaction (Ammonium Chloride (Sal Ammoniac) and Zinc
Chloride (Tinner's fluid) being notable examples).  The brush on
tinner's fluid is actually a mixture of hydrochloric acid and zinc
chloride, historically made by dissolving some zinc in HCl (but not
enough Zn to totally react with all the acid)..


If you don't want to fool with corrosive acids, one of the commercial
brass polishes might work (they use a combination of ammoniacal
compounds and a fine abrasive), but watch out for a film that they
often leave behind (to prevent tarnishing).

At 04:42 PM 12/9/2003 -0500, Jim White, K4OJ wrote:
>On this note...
>
>Is there a solvent available which when poured onto copper that has
>oxidation will give it that shiny copper color?  I am looking for an
>easy way out versus burnishing it... if a solvent exists please share
>that info... pouring some of it on to allow tinning, etc. would be a
>wonderful way to avoid nicking copper which is always fateful!
>
>73,
>
>Jim, K4OJ
>
>
>Pete Smith wrote:
>
>>At 10:22 AM 12/9/03 -0500, Tony King - W4ZT wrote:
>>
>>>You can help your neighbor with a good ground rod and clamp plus
>>>remaking all those one or two twist  splices in the high voltage
>>>lead.
>>
>>Split bolts are a wonderful solution to these splices, and a lot
>>easier than taking them apart and redoing them -- they apply a
>>tremendous amount of pressure to the joint, which seems to break
>>through any oxide that has been formed.
>>
>>73, Pete N4ZR
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