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Re: [TowerTalk] Fw: CATV Hardline: connectors?

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fw: CATV Hardline: connectors?
From: Pete Smith <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 07:57:06 -0500
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W4AN published the simplest plumbing solution I've seen for 3/4" hardline, back 
in 1995 on towertalk.  You use a 1/2" female water pipe to 1/2" copper tubing 
adapter, with an Amphenol barrel.  These have a snap-ring which you can remove 
by carefully hacksawing down to the snap-ring groove, at which point all the 
innards can be removed.  Silver solder the barrel into the copper tubing end of 
the adapter, with the cut end inside.  Cut the end of the hardline so that the 
slightly-spread center part of the barrel fits over the center conductor with 
about the the proper extension (trial fit) and solder.  Then put the barrel 
innards back, and thread the adapter onto the hardline sheath using Noalox for 
lubrication, until everything lines up.  

I have had two of these out in the weather, well but not exceptionally taped, 
for 10 years with no problems.

73, Pete N4ZR

 At 01:29 PM 2/19/2006, K8RI on Tower talk wrote:



>> Roger,
>> This is fine, and helpful.
>> One question: is this coupling an RF connector with a part number and 
>> known
>
>Part of it is.  The threaded portion is the standard barrell connector 
>(double female) with the threads cleaned off one end and then soldered into 
>the back side of the 3/4" connector.  I don't remember the part number.
>
>The 3/4" adapter is made from 1/2 of a 3/4" compression coupling that we cut 
>in two.
>Compression fittings also come with one end to fit standard pipe threads so 
>you could get one to from 1/2" tube to say, 1/2 MPT (Male Pipe Thread) which 
>has quite a chunk of brass on the threaded end. Then drill to the proper 
>size and solder in a barrell connector as was done in the photos, or *IF* 
>you can find a set of taps to fit the coax connector you could thread the 
>fitting and just screw in the barrell connector.  However each of these 
>approaches adds a bit more work to creating the adapter. While not as 
>elegant the PL-259 in the compression is by far the simpelest.
>
> 73
>
>Roger (K8RI)
>
>> source?  Your 3/4 photos seem to indicate that it is an RF connector.
>> 73 es TNX,
>> Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
>> 201.314.6964
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: K8RI on Tower talk [mailto:k8ri-tower@charter.net]
>> Sent: Sunday, 19 February, 2006 03:03
>> To: w2ttt@arrl.net; TOWERTALK@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fw: CATV Hardline: connectors?
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately I don't have a photo of the half inch coupling, although if
>> need be I could make up a connector and shoot some photos (if I can find
>> some half inch stuff.
>>
>> The compression coupling is "double ended" and designed to join to 1/2"
>> tubes.   Each end is tapered inside and has a ferrule held in place by a
>> nut.  When the nut is tightened the furred is compressed and gets smaller 
>> in
>>
>> diameter.  I use have of a 3.4" coupling and barrel connector to make
>> fittings for 3/4" hard line. Of that I have some photos.
>> http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/conn.htm
>>  They are just about the right size to nicely grab the 1/2" aluminum
>> hardline shield and the back end of a pl259.  Basically I put the back end
>> of the 259 into one end of the coupling and tighten it down keeping the
>> connector straight.  It is a tiny bit undersize and sometimes with want to
>> turn a bit, but it's close enough in size that the fitting will grab it
>> tightly.
>>
>> Come to think of it, I have some couplings and PL259s and that is the part
>> you need to see anyway.  I could put one of those together, shoot a couple
>> of photos and just add them to the above page.
>>
>> Roger Halstead (K8RI and ARRL 40 year Life Member)
>> N833R - World's oldest Debonair CD-2
>> www.rogerhalstead.com
>>> Roger,
>>> Do you have a picture?
>>> I'm not sure what you mean by a 1/2 compression fitting.
>>> Perhaps you can clarify?
>>> 73 esTNX!
>>> Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
>>> 201.314.6964
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
>>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of K8RI on Tower talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, 19 February, 2006 01:22
>>> To: Hector Garcia XE2K; Mike Bragassa, K5UO; towertalk@contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fw: CATV Hardline: connectors?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mike:
>>>> that 1/2 inch 75 ohms cable  is very easy to put
>>>> connectors
>>>>
>>>> cut the cable , remove 1 inch of jacket,  use a dremel
>>>> or any other tool that can remove the foam insulator
>>>> around 3/4 inch deep  don't cute or damage the center
>>>
>>> I treat it just like installing a pl-259, but add a 1/2 compression
>>> coupling. Clamp the coax in one end and the pl259 in the other. Leave
>>> enough
>>>
>>> center conductor sticking out to allow soldering to the center pin of the
>>> pl-259.  As far as stripping back the foam you have lots of leeway.
>>>
>>> I've used that method here with no problems and you don't have the 
>>> trouble
>>> of cleaning out the foam inside the jacket.
>>>
>>> Roger Halstead (K8RI and ARRL 40 year Life Member)
>>> N833R - World's oldest Debonair CD-2
>>> www.rogerhalstead.com
>>>
>>>
>>>> , is aluminun copper cladd  use an UHF barrel  that
>>>> fit in the center conductor , in this steep , you can
>>>> desansembly this one and solder the center of the
>>>> barrel to the center conductor in the coax or  just
>>>> put in under presure , later use a clamp to leave firm
>>>> the barrel in the soft aluminum of the coax.
>>>>
>>>> there in the google you can find several ways to do it
>>>> , also a copper plumbing option and other similar that
>>>> works, the one i try to explain is very easy and you
>>>> don't need a university degree to do it
>>>>
>>>> good luck
>>>>
>>>> --- "Mike Bragassa, K5UO" <bragassa@consolidated.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: CATV Hardline: connectors?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was able to pickup 350 feet of "TFC-T10-500JB"
>>>>> CATV coax for a run to a
>>>>>  80m vertical I am building.. I see I.C.E. has
>>>>> transformers for 75-50 Ohm
>>>>>  conversion. Good. Delivery??
>>>>>
>>>>>  Question: How can I fit PL-259's to this cable?
>>>>> Where may I locate come
>>>>>  papers on this subject?
>>>>>
>>>>>  The cable is TFC - T10-500JB
>>>>>
>>>>>  T10 = type of cable (semi flex) - well, that
>>>>> depends)
>>>>>  500 = 1/2" diameter
>>>>>  J = jacketed (black rubber around the aluminum)
>>>>>  B = suitable for direct burial
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks for any suggestions, data sources, etc..
>>>>>
>>>>>  Mike Bragassa, K5UO
>>>>> >
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>>>> Hector Garcia XE2K / XF1K
>>>> Mexicali B.C  DM22fp
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