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Re: [TowerTalk] Help! Lots of Birds on Tower Problem !

To: "w4ZW" <w4zw@comcast.net>,"'Marc Wullaert ON4MA'" <marc.wullaert3@pandora.be>,"'N6KI Dennis Vernacchia'" <n6ki_73@sbcglobal.net>,<towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Help! Lots of Birds on Tower Problem !
From: "Chet Moore" <ChetMoore@cox.net>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 17:40:57 -0500
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
So then it's only the male ospreys are the problem  !

chet
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "w4ZW" <w4zw@comcast.net>
To: "'Marc Wullaert ON4MA'" <marc.wullaert3@pandora.be>; "'N6KI Dennis 
Vernacchia'" <n6ki_73@sbcglobal.net>; <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Help! Lots of Birds on Tower Problem !


>
> I've had good luck with large rubber snakes. I have one coiled around  the
> upper part of my tower just above the rotor placement, and another coiled
> around the SteppIR boom.  I've used owls, and usually mounted them on a 
> pole
> thru the bottom hole so they wobbled and turned in the wind.  Found the
> mocking birds one day swooping at them until they pecked their eyes out, 
> and
> switched to the rubber snakes.  Seems to work very well.  Even the Ospreys
> stay away.  They also are hung so the wind moves them.
>
> YMMV,
>
>
> Jon Hamlet,  W4ZW
>
> Casey Key Island, Florida
> "A little piece of paradise in the Gulf of Mexico"
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Marc
>> Wullaert ON4MA
>> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 12:23 PM
>> To: 'N6KI Dennis Vernacchia'; towertalk@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Help! Lots of Birds on Tower Problem !
>>
>> Dennis
>> i'm using a owl for then years now.It is placed on the boom
>> of my 40m beam on top above my tribander beam.
>> It is never on the same place and the owl is mounted on a
>> system from a bikers wheel.
>> He is turning on his one at his mountingplate.
>>
>> Before at my other qth in the city  I  placed the owl on my
>> tower.No help because the owl stay alsways on the same
>> place.People got poop on there cars.O i never forget the
>> japanese tourist came over to take a picture.
>>
>> This summer I took down the  antennas for  maintanance and
>> checked the owl.No colors anymore so I painted him like a snow-owl.
>>
>> still no birds on my tower...sometimes i have crow's flying
>> around the owl and they make sense to attack him but few
>> turns around and they are gone.
>>
>> Marc on4ma
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <rdhinkle@sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "'N6KI Dennis Vernacchia'" <n6ki_73@sbcglobal.net>;
>> <towertalk@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Help! Lots of Birds on Tower Problem !
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Dennis... I'm a wildlife biologist and ham... If the
>> birds you see
>> > on
>> the
>> > tower have short tails and gold-flecks against a black feather coat,
>> they're
>> > probably starlings. If their tails are longer, they're either
>> > blackbirds
>> or
>> > grackles. My guess would be starlings.
>> >
>> > The plastic owls only work if they're moved every few days
>> (the other
>> birds
>> > notice that the owl hasn't been moving, and after a few
>> careful tests
>> > to see, learn that it's not a threat.) Noisemakers like carbide
>> > cannons or whistler shells are often employed to frighten
>> them away,
>> > and some commercial animal control firms may have them and
>> can obtain
>> > the perhaps necessary permits for the temporary "shots"
>> from your local government.
>> (If
>> > you're out in the country, with no neighbors too close, there are
>> > other simpler, less expensive options...).  There's a wrap that is
>> > sometimes placed along ledges, etc. and could be wrapped around the
>> > cross braces of your tower, but I'd think there are too
>> many braces to cover economically.
>> > There's also a commercial mix called "Tanglefoot" that makes a
>> > temporarily sticky surface that frightens birds once
>> they're landed on
>> > it, and it
>> would
>> > probably be the next best option after the noisemakers.
>> Check wildlife
>> > supply places like Ben Meadows or Forestry Suppliers for
>> supplies and
>> > information. They both have web sites, give 'em a Google.
>> >
>> > Starlings tend to return to the same "safe roosts" year after year,
>> > and they've probably decided that your tower now is one!
>> You just have
>> > to make it somehow convince them that it's "unsafe" instead.
>> >
>> > For what it's worth from the nature trivia end of things, there's a
>> > very strict order by which they arrange themselves on
>> towers or tree
>> > roosts,
>> with
>> > the older and more dominant birds at the top, and the younger less
>> dominant
>> > birds arranged downward according to their status. The upshot, of
>> > course,
>> is
>> > that the boss birds don't get wetted by those above them. If you're
>> > the youngest bird, everybody above you messes on you. Kind
>> of like the
>> business
>> > world these days...
>> >
>> > Let me know how it turns out !    Cheers....Bob
>> >
>> >
>> > Bob Hinkle, KK8ZZ
>> > Solon, Ohio 44139
>> > Grid: EN91gj
>> >
>> >
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