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Re: [TowerTalk] Why is the 25GSSB Base Plate Difficult to Find?

To: "'Jeff Stevens'" <jeff@mossycup.com>, <TexasRF@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Why is the 25GSSB Base Plate Difficult to Find?
From: "Scott MacKenzie" <kb0fhp@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:52:52 -0400
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The 25GSSB base is 1/2" thick, while the BPC25G is on the order of 1/4"
thick.

That should help understand the difference. 

-----Original Message-----
From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Stevens
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:22 PM
To: TexasRF@aol.com
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Why is the 25GSSB Base Plate Difficult to Find?

Thank you for responding to this, Gerald.  I was going to call you folks
this week to see if you folks could shed any light on this.

Radian doesn't publish specific dimensions (that I know of) on the BPC25G
(pinned base plate) and 25GSSB (self supporting base plate) but by their
shipping weight, I can see the they are vastly different products.  The self
supporting base is twice the weigh of the pier pin base.  The extra steel
would account for the extra cost.  One can't simply purchase a BPC25G, drill
four 11/16" holes in it and call it a SSB25G.

The Rohn/Radian specs spell out very clearly that the BPC25G is not to be
used for a bracketed tower.  They call for a short section embedded in
concrete, or either the 25GSSB or BPH25G.  My guess would be that many who
wish to use a base plate with their bracketed tower either use the pinned
base plate anyway or drill four holes in the pined base plate and call it a
self supporting base plate.  I haven't worked with enough 25G towers nor
have I paid attention enough to know if this is true -- just a suspicion.

Thanks to everyone who has emailed me!

-Jeff
KE7FRJ

On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 13:00 -0400, TexasRF@aol.com wrote:
> I can only speak for Texas Towers concerning the SSB25G:
>  
> The dealer price is $206 vs $82 for the BPC25G. We get a call maybe 
> once every year or two for one so there is not enough interest to 
> stock the plate. I am guessing that the price is a put off for most 
> folks.
>  
> 73,
> Gerald K5GW
> Texas Towers
>  
>  
>  
>  
> In a message dated 6/15/2008 3:25:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
> jeff@mossycup.com writes:
>         Thank you to everyone who has emailed me on and off list.
>         Thanks for
>         all of the great references as well.
>         
>         I guess my main question is why does virtually nobody sell the
>         self-supporting base plate?  Do people not use them?
>         
>         The pinned and tilt over are available everywhere.  The lack
>         of wide
>         availability of the self supporting base plate is
>         perplexing...
>         
>         -Jeff
>         KE7FRJ
>         
>         On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 18:34 -0700, Jeff Stevens wrote:
>         > I'm looking to put up a 28' bracketed Rohn 25 tower for some
>         VHF/UHF
>         > antennas.  There is definitely an ample supply of used tower
>         sections,
>         > house brackets, top sections, etc. in good to excellent
>         condition.  So
>         > far, however, I haven't found anyone willing to part with a
>         base plate.
>         > 
>         > Looking online for the 25GSSB self supporting base plate
>         I've found they
>         > are not easily purchased new either.  Why is this?  Neither
>         tessco nor
>         > Texas Towers sells them.  Both the BPC25G pinned base plate
>         and BPH25G
>         > tilt over base plate are readily available.  Does anybody
>         know why the
>         > 25GSSB is so difficult to find new?
>         > 
>         > -Jeff
>         > KE7FRJ


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