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Re: [TowerTalk] Coax soldering

To: <TexasRF@aol.com>, <richard@karlquist.com>, <W1JCW@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Coax soldering
From: "Pete Stark K4OM" <pstark@suddenlink.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:15:10 -0400
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I have followed the mfg instructions to the letter for almost 50 years as a 
ham and 31 in broadcast tv and radio.  Very few problems with solder or 
crimp connectors.  When I did have a problem, it was because I didn't follow 
instructions. Directions for connectors are in the handbook.  Fishing the 
braid thru the holes is loony.  Need heat?  Use one of the mini-torches. 
Use flux and a little vise.


It is vital that instructions be followed on heliax type cable. To the 
letter.

Pete K4OM



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From: <TexasRF@aol.com>
To: <richard@karlquist.com>; <W1JCW@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Coax soldering


> Rick has the answer. Fishing the center conductor through the opening in
> the shield is easier if you provide a few inches of extra length and push 
> the
> shield up the coax so it increases diameter a bit.
>
> The crimp terminals are ok but I personally would solder them to the coax
> after crimping for long term reliability. If you use ring terminals, they
> can be  bent with long nose pliers to fit around the open wire conductors 
> and
> then  soldered to the open wire conductors.
>
> 73,
> Gerald K5GW
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/21/2009 4:33:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> richard@karlquist.com writes:
>
> W1JCW  wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys -
>>
>> What is your preferred way to  solder an open wire feeder on say RG8 or
>> RG213 ?
>>
>> I  know some cut the brand down the middle, solder it at the base and
> work
>> their way to the tip.
>> Some twist it then solder or  flatting it.
>>
>> I am looking to try something  new.
>>
>> Suggestions ?
>>
>> 73-
>> W1JCW
>>  John
>
>
> To answer the original question about lead dress on the  coax:
>
> "Something new" (to you) is to use tweezers to displace the  braid
> near the "base" (ie away from the end) such that a hole is  formed
> in the braid.  This is done without cutting.  Then,  needlenose
> pliers are used to grab the dielectric and yank it through  the
> hole.  Sounds tricky, but I've done it dozens of times.  For  smaller
> coax (up to RG58) they have a tool called a "lead extractor"  that
> makes this easier.   See:
>
> http://www.stanleysupplyservices.com/product-group.aspx?id=723
>
> This  tool is too small for RG8, but gives you the idea of what you
> want to do by  hand.
>
> The other thing to do is install crimp terminals on the  braid
> and center conductor so that you are not soldering to the  coax.
>
> Rick  N6RK
>
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