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Re: [TowerTalk] Temp tower idea

To: "Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)" <ooe@odessaoffice.com>, towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Temp tower idea
From: Kipton Moravec <kip@kdream.com>
Reply-to: kip@kdream.com
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:23:42 -0500
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Having experience with HSMM-MESH my recommendation would be to have
something that is over peoples heads and then relay it from the edge of
the area where there are fewer people and where you can put your taller
tower. 

The biggest issue we have found in the past couple of years is that
everything works until people show up. Nowadays everyone has a phone
with WiFi that is trying to find a signal and it raises the noise floor.
And what worked when testing, does not work when the public shows up. 

The best fix is to use directional antennas at horizontal polarity, and
get the long distance hop away from the 6000 people. 

Kip
AE5IB


On Tue, 2012-03-13 at 08:52 -0700, Marlon K. Schafer (509-982-2181)
wrote:
> Been there done that.
> 
> It works fine with a couple of users or very very light data flow.  Ethernet 
> devices (including radios) really don't like to store and forward.  They 
> like to bring data in one port and send it out another.
> 
> The wireless part of this is what I do every day and have for over a decade 
> now.  I've got that part down pretty dang well.
> 
> I've got lots of temp tower setups around too.  And ideas for more (like my 
> crank up car trailer insert idea) just waiting for play money and time.
> 
> This particular setup is in a very congested area and doesn't allow for 
> upper vehicle mounting points or guy wires.  This will likely put a LOT of 
> strain on the base and I just don't want ANY chance of a hardware failure 
> hurting anyone.
> 
> For now, my and my bucket truck are going to head up to the school to help 
> them fix a roof that's blowing off in the wind!  It's been there since the 
> 80's and we just had the strongest wind in all that time rip part of the 
> metal trim off.  Nice to have the truck in town!
> 
> laters,
> 
> marlon
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Al Kozakiewicz" <akozak@hourglass.com>
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 9:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Temp tower idea
> 
> 
> > Just to make my point clear, any decent access point can be configured to 
> > function as a repeater.  It merely needs to be within recption distance of 
> > another access point.  All it needs is power - no additional network cable 
> > runs are necessary.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Al Kozakiewicz
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 12:10 AM
> > To: towertalk@contesting.com
> > Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] Temp tower idea
> >
> > Assuming this is a relatively flat area, why would you need any more than 
> > about 20 feet in height - enough to clear nearby vehicles and similar 
> > obstructions?
> >
> > Height isn't going to compensate for low signal strength.  Maybe what you 
> > really need is more than one access point?
> >
> > Al
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