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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Rust & paint
From: Mike Reublin NF4L <nf4l@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 11:51:49 -0500
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Thanks Mickey. Sounds like Reformer or Ospho is a step up from the cold 
galvanizing coatings. The rust in question is light surface stuff.

Mike NF4L

On Dec 2, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Mickey Baker <fishflorida@gmail.com> wrote:

> You have several answers, but they don't seem to answer your question 
> directly.
> 
> From Rustoleum's MSDS from the product, 
> http://www.rustoleum.com/MSDS/ENGLISH/3575402.PDF, it appears that it uses 
> tannic acid as a rust conversion compound.
> 
> This is safe for consumer use and does something different than a "cold 
> galvanizing" coating. It converts some of surface coat of rust (iron oxide) 
> to ferric tannate, a black and more stable compound than rust. Rustoleum 
> provides a wetting agent that should find all the flakes and cracks on the 
> surface, particularly if it is applied thickly with a brush rather than 
> sprayed.  It contains paint that, when it dries, keeps the ferric tannate 
> surface in place and provides a protective coat.
> 
> This is intended for surface rust only. 
> 
> You might consider Ospho, a phosphoric acid based converter. It is a bit more 
> powerful, so it acts on deeper rust than the tannic acid solutions.  It would 
> also require another covering coat of paint, if you don't like the mottled 
> black that Ospho tends to leave behind.
> 
> The "cold galvanizing" compounds should generally not be used over active 
> (red) rust. Although it may successfully stop rust, it does not chemically 
> address the oxides that already exist on the surface of the metal, other than 
> fixing them in place. You should remove or convert the existing rust before 
> coating with cold galvanizing.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Mickey N4MB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Mike Reublin NF4L <nf4l@comcast.net> wrote:
> Anybody got an opinion about Rustoleum Rust Reformer vs cold galvanizing? 
> Would you use it with cold galvanizing, or alone?
> 
> 73, Mike NF4L
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