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Re: [TowerTalk] FW: Rotor control cable connectors

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] FW: Rotor control cable connectors
From: Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net>
Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 10:46:10 -0500
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Amen, MIke. It would be good to have a third hand when up a tower. With proper climbing gear a lanyard should hold you securely to free up your hands. It would be good to position the connector such that you can wrap your arm around a tower component and still use the hand on that arm to hold onto one side of the connector pair. I never pry the trailer type connectors apart as I have sufficient grip to pull and wiggle to get them apart one piece in each hand. In due time I may end up using pliers (probably Vice Grips) to hold onto the halves.) I tried several brick and mortar sources but never found 8 pin trailer type connectors. Two each 4 pin git 'er done and are likely easier to put together and pull apart.

I am trying to set up my three towers and Hy-Gain Hy-Tower vertical such that I NEVER have to climb them or use a ladder to work with them. Over the years tower climbing has begun to be less fun.

73,

Patrick NJ5G


On 5/19/2014 5:59 PM, Mike wrote:
Whether you use 4, 6 or 8 pin trailer hitch type connectors, make sure you
are able to engage and more importantly, disconnect the mated connectors
with your hand.  I've used the 4, 6 and 8 pin trailer hitch connectors sold
at auto parts store and found I had to use a screw driver to separate the
connectors when fully mated.  A PITA when on top of the tower, etc.

   73,
   Mike, K4GMH


On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Tom_N2SR via TowerTalk <
towertalk@contesting.com> wrote:

The Wireman has what you are looking for.  8 pole molded male and female
disconnect.


https://www.thewireman.com/prodpix6.html

I do not own The Wireman, nor do I work for them, therefore I have no
interest.  Just passing on information.


Tom, N2SR



On Monday, May 19, 2014 11:01 AM, Patrick Greenlee <
patrick_g@windstream.net> wrote:

Matt, That is certainly a good pro way to handle the problem (older
persons substitute word for "issue.") I am doing essentially the same
thing at the terminal strip, exiting that terminal strip area with a
made up cable (separate insulated wires with a couple layers of shrink
over them and plenty of silicon rubber (RTV) inside over the terminal
strip.  Nicee and weather proof.  Where you went with a J-box and
internal terminal strip, I wnet with a pair of 4 pin polarized "flat 4"
trailer connectors.; With a few wraps of tape and some RTV and you are
weatherproof. Coax seal is even easier to put on and take off and would
work good.as well.

Comparing the two approaches is like arguing whether it is 50 cents or a
half dollar.   With a note paper inside the J-box as a reminder of what
color wire goes to which number terminal (unless of course the other
cable is same colors) and you are in business.  About the only advantage
I could claim is a little cost and the ability to connect and disconnect
in the dark without needing a third or fourth hand and a light.  I do
not intend to be plugging and unplugging in the dark and the savings
won't buy much these days.

73,

Patrick NJ5G
On 5/18/2014 10:53 PM, Matt wrote:
Hi Patrick,

Just another take on the chronic problem with the older terminal block
design that you mention...   My solution was to replace the terminal
strip
with a blank-off plate through which I passed a short whip that extends
the
rotor wiring out to a weatherproof external J-box which houses the
terminal
strip.  I use small compression nuts that are similar to seal-tight
connectors at the blank-off plate and the J-box.   J box is mounted to
one
of the tower legs which also makes accessing the terminal strip a lot
easier.

Matt
KM5VI




I was looking for connectors to add to older HY-Gain rotors using 8
wires.
My new production unit came with connectors  but the older units use an 8
position terminal strip that is not so wonderfully weather proofed.  So
you
get your unit refurbed or it is still working fine  but still has the old
terminal strip... not satisfactory...

So I'm searching Mouser, Digi Key etc and then...  and then... the little
over my head light came on, dimly but noticeably illuminated.
Flat 4 pin trailer connectors for hooking up the lights on a trailer to
be
towed.  Need 8 pins.  Connector has 4 pins. One side is 3 males and a
female
and the mating connector is 3 female pins and a male. Take one of each
male
and female and using the supplied pigtails put on ring terminals and
install
the pair of flat connectors to the terminal strip.  Flood the terminal
strip
with Silicon rubber (RTV) or your favorite weather proofer and put on the
cover.  Another pair of connectors terminates your cable run at the
rotator
end.

This gives you polarized connector action. You can't plug the cable run
from
the controller into the wrong connectors at the rotator. The trailer type
flat 4 pin connectors are made to be exposed to the elements in their
normal
application.  I like belt and suspender type weather proofing so...  Wrap
the connectors with tape or coax seal or whatever you prefer to boost the
weather resistance if you are worried that these inexpensive connectors
could do a good job. Electrical tape and a little RTV does a marvelous
job
and is easy enough to remove if the need arises.

I kinow, I know, no material certs, no mil-spec, NIH, too inexpensive to
be
good etc etc...

73,

Patrick NJ5G
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