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Re: [TowerTalk] Weight on ends of a OCF diploe

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Weight on ends of a OCF diploe
From: Mike Fahmie via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Mike Fahmie <wa6zty@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 13:35:10 +0000 (UTC)
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If only we could come up with a way to make the trees sway in-phase!
If the trees were connected with an antenna of 'sufficient' strength they would 
be forced to be in-phase but I fear that the force exerted upon each tree might 
cause their tops to fracture!
-Mike-

 
      From: Christopher Brown <cbrown@woods.net>
 To: towertalk@contesting.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 2:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Weight on ends of a OCF diploe
   
Only works if sway is fairly limited.  Flexible trees combined with
winter winds that will be 30 - 60 mph constant with 5 - 30 second
"bursts" of up to 120mph...  When they are directly along the line of
the antenna can be an issue unless you have a bungie that can extend > 10ft.

On 8/11/16 18:08, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote:
> Bungie cord is self damping.
> Put it in a PVC pipe so the
> sun doesn't damage it.
> 
> Rick N6RK
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> On 8/11/2016 7:06 PM, Mike Fahmie via TowerTalk wrote:
>> One can use a combination of the two to damp the response!
>> -Mike-
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>>      From: Gary <gary_mayfield@hotmail.com>
>>  To: "towertalk@contesting.com" <towertalk@contesting.com>
>>  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 6:25 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Weight on ends of a OCF diploe
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>> I saw an amazing thing once.  The South Dakota breeze caused my weight to 
>> head upward with some momentum.  The antenna then went slack while the 
>> weight was still moving upward. The wind caught the antenna tightening it 
>> while the weight was headed back down literally causing a snapping sound 
>> when the weight bounced. I'm sure it applied a great deal more instantaneous 
>> force than the weight alone. The next morning the weight and antenna were on 
>> the ground.
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>> I replaced the weight with rubber 'bungee'  tensioners, and it never failed 
>> again.  The sun eats up the tensioners so the need to be replaced 
>> occasionally.
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>> 73,
>>
>> Joe kk0sd
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>> From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces@contesting.com> on behalf of Mike Fahmie 
>> via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 6:47 PM
>> To: Towertalk Reflector
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Weight on ends of a OCF diploe
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>> I used a 50lb lump of granite, roughly one half cubic foot, of which there 
>> is plenty up here.  I set an anchor bolt in it.  It was for a RG11 center 
>> feed dipole with balun so more weight than an OCF dipole is needed.-Mike-
>>
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>>      From: Russ Dearmore via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
>>  To: "towertalk@contesting.com" <towertalk@contesting.com>
>>  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 4:01 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Weight on ends of a OCF diploe
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>> Chuck,  This is a situation where whatever you have is probably a good 
>> starting point.  Ham's are known for collecting junk and one can get quite 
>> artistic cleaning out ones garage.  I use old style window weights but if 
>> the XYL will let me get away with it, I might find an old radio chassis that 
>> might do well also.  Only a ham would think that to be artistic....... Hi  
>> My Heroes Wear Combat Boots!
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>>      From: Chuck Gooden <Chuck.Gooden@comcast.net>
>>  To: towertalk@contesting.com
>>  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 3:19 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Weight on ends of a OCF diploe
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>> Thanks for the replies to my question.  Looks like 10-20 lbs should do
>> it at least as a starting point.  This seems to confirm what I was
>> initially expecting.
>>
>> I have already thought of most of the other suggestions that were
>> offered.  I would like to put something up initially that I am satisfied
>> with for a while.  Possibly some dayi may replace my TV Tower with a
>> "real" tower.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Chuck Gooden N9QBT
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