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Re: [TowerTalk] Heliax acting strangely: Help?

To: "'chuck.gooden'" <chuck.gooden@comcast.net>, <kr2q@optimum.net>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Heliax acting strangely: Help?
From: "John Lemay" <john@carltonhouse.eclipse.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 13:55:48 +0100
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Yes, water ingress.

If you are lucky, it is at one end or other.

Remove both connectors, examine for dampness / corrosion. If necessary allow to 
air dry or use gentle heat. Re-check for infinite resistance between inner and 
outer.

John G4ZTR

-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
chuck.gooden
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 12:53
To: kr2q@optimum.net; towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Heliax acting strangely: Help?


    
Improperly installed connetor that allowed water to ingree the cable?

Chuck Gooden - K9LC

-------- Original message --------
From: kr2q@optimum.net
Date: 08/27/2017  6:25 AM  (GMT-06:00)
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Heliax acting strangely: Help? 

I put out a 160 foot run of 7 eights heliax last year.  Worked great.  Last 
time I was QRV was end of January, 2017.

I recently put some RF out (100 watts...HP for me) and was surprised to see an 
SWR in the shack of about 3:1.

Setup:
Outdoor antenna switch box just outside the shack. From there, very short run 
of RG8 (under 4 feet) to "start" of Heliax.
160 foot run of Heliax to "back" tower.
Then another "short run" of RG8 to about 80 feet of RG217, which goes "up" my 
crankup tower.

What I have done:
Put a dummy load at the rig: shows 1:1 SWR.

Put the dummy load at the "far end" of the heliax by "breaking" the connection 
from the Heliax to the short run of RG8.  SWR in the shack still 3:1 (all HF 
bands).

Put the dummy load at the end of the short run of RG8 coming from the antenna 
switch box.
SWR in the shack shows 1:1 (dummy working, coax to that point working).

OK, so seems like something is wrong with the Heliax.

I disconnected the Heliax at both ends.  If I short inner to outer, it shows 
dead short at the "other" end.  I know, DC is not RF.

I measure the resistance between center conductor and outer shield of the 
Heliax.  I expected "infinite," but using my crappy RS ohmeter, it shows about 
500k ohms.  I measured other runs I have RG217 (nothing connected at either 
end, about same length), and the crappy RS meter shows infinite, as expected.

So what could go "wrong" with my 7 eights inch Heliax?  It is above (on) ground 
for the entire length.

I walked it yesterday, picking it up about every 10 feet.  Looked "normal" to 
me.

Any help/suggestions?

Thanks,
de Doug KR2Q


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