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Re: [VHFcontesting] using the calling frequency

To: "Bill Olson" <callbill@hotmail.com>, VHFcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] using the calling frequency
From: w4nf@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 01:25:40 +0000
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Hi guys,

I know for sure we aviod the calling freq and K8GP is only about 36 air miles 
from us so we usually pick a freq on 6 (up around 50.1650 and on 2 (around 
144.235 or so) and stay put.  This helps both stations minmize interference to 
each other as we both run stacks (they have a 4 stacks on 6 and 2 and we have 2 
stacks on each band) and legal limit.  Every once in a while we'll put a new op 
on and he might end up on the calling freq for a short time before we correct 
the situation.  So tune around up the band and work us,  73, Jack W4NF   W4IY 
VHF Contest Coordinator

It is hard enough now teaching our new ops about turning tight beamwidth 
antennas, watching the amps, passing schedules, etc. without some QSY rule.  
That would be a nightmare trying to pass people up the bands.
-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Bill Olson" <callbill@hotmail.com> 

> Hi guys, I am really not aware of ANY of the so called "big guns" operating 
> on the calling frequency.. They may squeeze up to within 5kHz of there, but 
> the reason they are the "big guns" is that they know how to operate 
> efficiently and operating on the calling frequency is NOT that! 
> 
> That being said, up here in rural Maine, I will often call CQ to the 
> Northeast on 144.2. This is because the VE1's often MONITOR 144.2. I am 
> often the only station they heard all weekend because, while I am far off 
> the beaten path, they are even FARTHER.. With my beam to the NE I am qrming 
> no one and being qrmed by no one, but it occasionally results in a contact 
> and a new grid. For this reason and probably a lot of others, it's silly 
> making rules like QSY rules or "not using the calling frequency" rules or 
> anything like that in a VHF contest.. It's not the same as not allowing 
> operation on 146.52 on FM.. like what's the calling frequency anyway?? 
> 144.200. ok... how about 144.203?? 144.201? how about 144.2005? How about 1 
> Hz above 144.2? If it's not enforceable.. it's a stupid rule.. 
> 
> I think the experienced contest stations KNOW to stay away from .200.. At 
> least they should if they want to get a good score.. We should be using ths 
> forum to let the newcomers understand things they might not know just 
> starting out. Things like when I hear a station S9 calling CQ from 300 miles 
> away, that he probably has pretty high power and if I am running 10 watts, 
> he might not hear me due to a lot of other stations calling him that are 
> either closer or running higher power.. I may not hear the other stations 
> because they are pointing away from me toward the station I am trying to 
> work.. If I have low power I should be "tuning and pouncing" a lot and if I 
> run out of stations to call and need to call CQ it should be a good distance 
> away from then calling frequency.. The big guns KNOW to tune for me. If they 
> don't they are missing QSO's and the really good stations don't miss much! 
> 
> Now, that's for 2 meters.. On 222, activity is a lot more sparse and at 
> least up here I WELCOME QRM!!! Hope to see you all next week on 222! 
> 
> bill, K1DY 
> 
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