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Re: [VHFcontesting] rover rules

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] rover rules
From: stanka1ze@aol.com
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:51:35 -0500
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From: stanka1ze@aol.com
To: stanka1ze@aol.com
Sent: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 3:47 pm
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] rover rules










Ev,



I agree, we should just cut through all of the BS and fix the problem.

As a member of the community of contesters, I can not see how perfecting grid 
circling 

benefits either the entrant, the contest, or the hobby. I would be in favor of 
a rule forbidding the practice.

If we allow it to continue, we are only condoning it and encouraging all 
classes of Rovers to 

make it part of their operating strategy in order to be competitive. It may be 
pretty cool to

make 16 qso's per band in 1 intersection, but not as cool as putting a really 
difficult

contact in the log that you really had to work for.



I do understand and agree that Wayne has not only played the game to the letter 
of the law, but He has also

spent a small fortune doing it. 



Stan



















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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:17:40 -0800 (PST)



From: Ev Tupis <w2ev@yahoo.com>



Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] rover rules



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Hi Jim,



In regard to "absurdly high scores generated by re/contacting a small number of 



participants...and being rewarded for doing so, publicly", there are several 



"fixes" that can be applied.  I've suggested several over the years, 



including...







(a) enforce existing rules that infer the practice of contacting



    only a small number of stations is not the purpose of the contest



(b) define the practice of "grid circling" and ban it



(c) limit the ability for rovers to re-activate grids







Though all three suggestions would work to reach a "fix", they have met with 



considerable resistance (often from different audiences).  The resistance is 



usually associated with past practices that would have be modified, while the 



problem is "fixed".







The discussion seems to be caught in "engineering purgatory".  It is the place 



where everyone likes to "tweak" without ever reaching a final, stable state. :) 
 



I'm ok with that, too. :))







Regards,



Ev, W2EV







 

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