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Re: [VHFcontesting] Log Periodic ?

To: VHF Contesting Reflector <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Log Periodic ?
From: Bill Olson <callbill@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 16:13:07 +0000
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Hi all, Create claims the gain of the 50-1300MHz LPDA is 10-12dBi (~8-10dBd). I 
don't see how those numbers could possibly be accurate given the element taper 
and the boom length etc.. Reports of performance compared to single band Yagis 
seem to bear that out. I'd guess the realistic gain is more like 3-4dB over a 
dipole. That's like a 2 or 3 element single band Yagi.. Now admittedly you'd 
need 2,3,4, 5 or 6 single band Yagis to do the job since the Log Periodic does 
cover 6 ham bands.. If you can tolerate mediocre performance (probably really 
poor performance on 903/1296) but need the simplicity of a single antenna I 
guess this would be an option, but I sure wouldn't go that way,. Heck, it looks 
like the thing costs $519 too, (from DX Engineering at any rate)!! Holy smokes! 
The way I see it, you're paying for having broad band performance which you 
aren't using.. It works as well at 88MHz as it does at 144! Great for a TV 
antenna but who needs that on the ham bands?!

I GET the simplicity factor and agree that ANY antenna is better than no 
antenna, and I KNOW people are using these antennas and are happy with them, 
just saying my piece I guess..


bill, K1DY in Maine

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From: VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com> on behalf of Zack 
Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:23 PM
To: VHF Contesting Reflector
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Log Periodic ?

I think if you're close to a metropolitan area with a lot of people to
work who are close by, the log periodic is the way to go. Some of the
Rovers in the Chicago area I know use LPDA's. My favorite portable
location is about 100 miles from the closest stations I work. I have
found it's advantageous to use a separate, larger beam with more gain
for each band.

73, Zack W9SZ


On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 7:45 AM, Patrick Thomas <p-thomas@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Like all things in contesting, I think it depends on one's goals and 
> circumstances.  Sure, an LPDA will not perform as well as long (maybe even 
> mid-length) yagis.  But... it also will cost less, take up less space in the 
> vehicle, take up less space/weight on the mast, take less time to set up 
> (assuming you start from scratch), and will only require one run of heavy 
> coax.  Plus obviously AN antenna will outperform NO antenna!  And as others 
> have mentioned, you can use it for a backup "any band that failed" antenna in 
> the future, if you later graduate to a higher-performing setup.
>
> Cheap surplus coax switches of good quality show up fairly often on ebay that 
> can handle frequencies up to 1-2 GHz at a couple hundred watts, switching 
> between 6-10 connectors, and these are easily controlled by anything from an 
> automated arduino to a pushbutton control panel, so I would not be turned off 
> by the need for a switch.
>
> Just my thoughts on the matter.  I considered building my own LPDA as there 
> are many good calculators out there, but ended up with a large van for a rove 
> vehicle, which will happily swallow many large antennas.  Now if it would 
> just run reliably....
>
> Patrick
> KB8DGC
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