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To: Paul Bourque <pbourque@gmail.com>, "k1ep@arrl.net" <k1ep@arrl.net>, packrats reflector <packrats@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [VHFcontesting] Contest suggestion
From: Rick R <rick1ds@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 15:26:01 +0000
List-post: <mailto:vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Here's a thought—Even hours analog, Odd hours digital​
Or perhaps having an analog-only contest and a digital-only contest as has been 
suggested many times. Rick K1DS

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From: newsvhf-bounces@mailman.qth.net <newsvhf-bounces@mailman.qth.net> on 
behalf of Paul Bourque <pbourque@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2024 11:18 AM
To: k1ep@arrl.net <k1ep@arrl.net>
Cc: Terry Price <terry@directivesystems.com>; News group mailing list 
<newsvhf@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [NEWSVHF] Dave and Fred and all

A couple of years ago, I posted in Contest Update and recommended that
stations call CQ and look for CW/SSB QSOs at the top and bottom of each
hour. Of course, what really helps here is that some of the bigger gun
stations get on and call CQ. Maybe we should make this a thing- similar to
how K1WHS is helping bring back life to 222. But we need to get more
stations on board for this to work. I'm not anti digital modes, but I
really find it more enjoyable to work stations on phone (working on my CW
skills, but not anywhere near ready for prime time with that.)

This past contest, I was focussed on 6 meters because I'm so close to
getting my VUCC on 6 and that was my goal for this contest. I only heard
one station calling CQ on SSB (W2EA), which I had already worked. The CQs
from my little gun station went unanswered. But I tried- I didn't make a
single contact on SSB as my time was being wasted sitting there calling CQ
to an empty band. BTW- my goal for getting closer to VUCC was successful-
I'm sitting at 99 confirmed grids right now- and hoping that a couple of
stations that I worked confirm for my 100th grid.

In June, I roved to 3 sites in FN31, FN32 and FN42- (SSB/FM only). When I
was in FN32- basically in W2SZs backyard, I was expecting to hear them on
all three bands I had (6, 2, 432)- but they were suspiciously absent from
SSB and FM. I did catch them calling CQ on 446.0 when I was driving down
the hill from my FN42 location. I thought for sure I'd hear them on phone
being so close to them. In years past, W2SZ was my "beacon" during
contests- it was a sure bet that I'd get them in the log every contest.

I'm really looking forward to any suggestions on how we can breathe some
life back into CW and voice (SSB, FM, AM..) during the VHF contests.

73,
-Paul N1SFE


On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 10:23 AM Ed Parish <k1ep.list@gmail.com> wrote:

> If all of us abandon CW and SSB, then everyone will be on FT8. We still
> need to call CQ on CW and SSB and make some activity there. It was
> disheartening at tines to tune from 50.125 to 50.200 and not hear a single
> SSB signal during the contest.
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2024, 09:44 Terry Price <terry@directivesystems.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I don't "care" for digital modes either but I have worked folks on FT8
> that
> > I could not work on cw so it does have it's place. As a contester, you
> have
> > to go where the activity is, do I wish there was more cw/SSB, heck yes
> but
> > it is what it is.
> >
> > ANY VHF & up activity is welcome, hell I'll work you on FM or AM if
> > necessary !!!
> >
> > Terry Price - W8ZN
> > Directive Systems and Engineering
> > 703-754-3876
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 8:50 AM Ellis Foley via NEWSVHF <
> > newsvhf@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I agree whole heartedly with you Dave and Fred, I do not work FT8, just
> > > not a digital guy in that respect. tried lots of things Rtty, ASCII etc
> > > just never got into or like the mode. and not seeking any awards so no
> > need
> > > here.  But I used to work all the VHF contest thru and thu spent many a
> > > contest til the wee hours of each morning working and sending in my
> logs.
> > > Have not done that last 5-6 yrs simply because I no longer put the
> effort
> > > in because every one is on FT8 or what ever other digi mode.I did not
> > even
> > > turn the rig on this contest. had no desire to even "dole" out points.
> > >      I'm seeing and hearing a lot more guys saying the same thing, but
> do
> > > not hear them on ssb or cw when the contest come around? so! unless
> they
> > > get off the computer and on the rigs it will remain the same or get
> even
> > > worse. Sad to see the empty air waves on ssb and cw. anytime not just
> > > contesting. I monitor 50.125 all the time and have only heard one guy
> on
> > > and worked him in almost two months! And the clincher is just about
> every
> > > new rig today has 6m into it. ! and no one uses the band . oh well Que
> > sera
> > > sera.de EllisWA1RKS
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